Peak John Stockton vs Peak Steve Nash

[Foster5k]

Anyone picking Nash doesn't know basketball.

John Stockton was a beast.

[TheAdmiral3]

Anyone picking Stockton doesn't know basketball.

Steve Nash was a beast.

[1987_Lakers]

Anyone picking Stockton doesn't know basketball.

Steve Nash was a beast.

[rodman91]

Who cares about fadeaway jumpers.

ALL TIME ASSISTS AND STEALS LEADER.

Do you have any idea what that means to have that title as one man in one uniform?



And I guess Nash also made Dirk a HOF, made pre knree-injury Amare one of the best finishers of all-time, and gave Joe Johnson the ability to go out and net a max contract too.

If Stockton has Nash's scoring skills, they would have better chance against Bulls.

Everybody blames Malone for shortcomings but it was Stockton who sucked againts Bulls in 98.

24 pts (%75) 8 asts
9 pts (%80) 7 asts
2 pts (%25) 7 asts
7 pts (%27) 13 asts
6 pts (%43) 12 asts
10 pts (%40) 5 asts

Stockton at 35 in 98 finals : 9.6 ppg & 8.6 apg.

Steve Nash at 35 vs Lakers : 17.6 ppg 11.8 apg
Steve Nash at 35 vs Spurs : 22 ppg 7.8 apg

Nash was far better at creating his own shots.

[D.J.]

Nash absolutely deserved his MVPs

I have no problem with his first MVP. His 2nd MVP, not so much. Kobe, Dirk, and LeBron all deserved it more.

[greymatter]

Purely from an offensive perspective, Nash is clearly better. They're about equal as distributors, but Nash is just an all-around better shooter.

PG defense has very little impact on the defensive side of the ball. It's why garbage like Fisher and Jameer Nelson can be starters and still play on teams which have given up 42-43% shooting over the past few years.

Though Stockton was clearly a better overall player, it's not necessarily easy to say you could more easily build a team around him. For one thing, all but one of his seasons he had Mailman; so there's no actual sample to compare. Nash has had to deal with different pieces coming in and out and up until last year was still able to play at an elite level, proving that he can take any cast and elevate them on the offensive side of the ball (just like CP3).

[DKLaker]

Purely from an offensive perspective, Nash is clearly better. They're about equal as distributors, but Nash is just an all-around better shooter.

PG defense has very little impact on the defensive side of the ball. It's why garbage like Fisher and Jameer Nelson can be starters and still play on teams which have given up 42-43% shooting over the past few years.

Though Stockton was clearly a better overall player, it's not necessarily easy to say you could more easily build a team around him. For one thing, all but one of his seasons he had Mailman; so there's no actual sample to compare. Nash has had to deal with different pieces coming in and out and up until last year was still able to play at an elite level, proving that he can take any cast and elevate them on the offensive side of the ball (just like CP3).

FAIL!!!!!!!! Learn basketball before you post crap like this

[BlackJoker23]

nash and it aint even close

[D.J.]

Purely from an offensive perspective, Nash is clearly better. They're about equal as distributors, but Nash is just an all-around better shooter.

Agree that Nash is a better shooter and more versatile offensively. Stockton was a better distributor.


PG defense has very little impact on the defensive side of the ball. It's why

garbage like Fisher and Jameer Nelson can be starters and still play on teams which have given up 42-43% shooting over the past few years.

If it has very little impact, perhaps Nash would have made the Finals at least once. I guess him getting burned by guys like Tony Parker and Jason Terry did have an impact.

Though Stockton was clearly a better overall player, it's not necessarily easy to say you could more easily build a team around him. For one thing, all but one of his seasons he had Mailman; so there's no actual sample to compare. Nash has had to deal with different pieces coming in and out and up until last year was still able to play at an elite level, proving that he can take any cast and elevate them on the offensive side of the ball (just like CP3).

Malone did not make Stockton, nor did Malone need Stockton. They complimented each other perfectly. But Malone was not responsible for all of Stockton's assists or even the majority. Stockton certainly elevated his teammates. Thurl Bailey was putting up nearly 20 a night. Jeff Malone's eFG% and overall offensive efficiency actually went up with Stockton. Jeff Hornacek's eFG% went up playing with Stockton.

[greymatter]

FAIL!!!!!!!! Learn basketball before you post crap like this

Maybe pull your nose out of Kobe's ass before talking.

[rule1223]

nash has 2 mvps 'nuff said

[greymatter]

Malone did not make Stockton, nor did Malone need Stockton. They complimented each other perfectly. But Malone was not responsible for all of Stockton's assists or even the majority. Stockton certainly elevated his teammates. Thurl Bailey was putting up nearly 20 a night. Jeff Malone's eFG% and overall offensive efficiency actually went up with Stockton. Jeff Hornacek's eFG% went up playing with Stockton.

Never said Stockton didn't elevate his teammates. The point was that he had a lot more continuity than Nash's Suns teams have had and that it's not as easy to compare how good they were at elevating.

Thurl Bailey and both Jeffs aren't very good examples. Bailey's last two seasons with Utah already showed a sizable dropoff before he was traded. The 2 Jeffs were already 17-20ppg scorers. Malone showed a modest 1.5 to 2% increase in FG% while Horny's efficiency stayed fairly close to his Suns days.

[greymatter]

If it has very little impact, perhaps Nash would have made the Finals at least once. I guess him getting burned by guys like Tony Parker and Jason Terry did have an impact.

Amare and Diaw anchoring the Dantoni defense had a lot more to do with Nash not making the finals than TP and JT.