Curry is on par with Magic and Bird defensively

[Ca$H]

So why do they get a free pass while Curry doesn't?
Curry will surpass both Bird and Magic on the GOAT list. He is more dominant and efficient.

[SouBeachTalents]

So why do they get a free pass while Curry doesn't?
Curry will surpass both Bird and Magic on the GOAT list. He is more dominant and efficient.

I agree with the first half of your post but at this. Let's see him get a Finals MVP vote first

[Legends66NBA7]

Bird was better on defense.

[Ca$H]

Bird was better on defense.

No.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Better than Bird on defense?

Nikka please

Neither is remotely close to being a 1on1 lockdown defender but Bird's team defense was WAY better and his overall defensive impact EASILY trumps Curry's...
You're claim is just preposterous

Celtics went from being the 3rd worst ranked defense just before Bird got there, to a top5 defense in Bird's rookie year... With the same core roster and new coach Bill Fitch... Larry was 1st in the league in DWS, 6th in DRtg; while not even one of his teammates came close to that... Parish, McHale or DJ weren't there yet, for that matter.

Boston were always considerably better on D with Bird on the court, and their decline in defensive ranking coincides with Bird getting older and his decline in health and defensive impact.
Even when Larry came back as a total shell in 1989-90, they went from being 20th to 12th in Def Rtg.

Dude made 3 all-defensive teams competing with some terrific defensive forwards in an era where name/fame didn't get you there... And, tbh, he definitely should've made it plenty of more times.

Bird led the league in DWS 4 times, was top5 7 times. He was once 2nd in DRtg, top10 6 times... Other forwards, throughout history, who did something similar? You got KG, Duncan, Bobby Jones, Rodman, Pippen and extremely few others...
Larry was the leader in combined DWS from 1980 til 1985... I don't believe that any other forward can make the same claim, over a 5-year period.

^Those are all just coincidences, I guess

What free pass?

Bird had a great defensive IQ, he barely got lost on rotations, he knew exactly when to double-team, he was very good at playing the passing lanes, he created many TO's, he knew how to use his body to protect the paint, he drew charges time and time again, he was capable of averaging 1 BPG, he had two of the quickest hands, was active on defense, "predicted" actions before they happened and got steals/blocks due to it, he could funnel his man onto defensive help, before back injuries he more than held his own on the perimeter, he was always a pretty good post m2m defender, clutch on the defensive end, led great defense into easy offense...
His RIDICULOUS (and instant) overall impact also was a lot due to his defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpEAZMT5t_U

Steph can't **** with that...

Stop with them dumb, ignorant hyperboles, please

And what's that talk about Curry surpassing Bird and Magic?

Getting a little ahead of ourselves there, to say the least, huh?
Steph has been simply amazing but let's not get there just yet... Shit, overrating much?

[Fire Colangelo]

Better than Bird on defense?

Nikka please

Neither is remotely close to being a 1on1 lockdown defender but Bird's team defense was WAY better and his overall defensive impact EASILY trumps Curry's...
You're claim is just preposterous

Celtics went from being the 3rd worst ranked defense just before Bird got there, to a top5 defense in Bird's rookie year... With the same core roster and new coach Bill Fitch... Larry was 1st in the league in DWS, 6th in DRtg; while not even one of his teammates came close to that... Parish, McHale or DJ weren't there yet, for that matter.

Boston were always considerably better on D with Bird on the court, and their decline in defensive ranking coincides with Bird getting older and his decline in health and defensive impact.
Even when Larry came back as a total shell in 1989-90, they went from being 20th to 12th in Def Rtg.

Dude made 3 all-defensive teams competing with some terrific defensive forwards in an era where name/fame didn't get you there... And, tbh, he definitely should've made it plenty of more times.

Bird led the league in DWS 4 times, was top5 7 times. He was once 2nd in DRtg, top10 6 times... Other forwards, throughout history, who did something similar? You got KG, Duncan, Bobby Jones, Rodman, Pippen and extremely few others...
Larry was the leader in combined DWS from 1980 til 1985... I don't believe that any other forward can make the same claim, over a 5-year period.

^Those are all just coincidences, I guess

What free pass?

Bird had a great defensive IQ, he barely got lost on rotations, he knew exactly when to double-team, he was very good at playing the passing lanes, he created many TO's, he knew how to use his body to protect the paint, he drew charges time and time again, he was capable of averaging 1 BPG, he had two of the quickest hands, was active on defense, "predicted" actions before they happened and got steals/blocks due to it, he could funnel his man onto defensive help, before back injuries he more than held his own on the perimeter, he was always a pretty good post m2m defender, clutch on the defensive end, led great defense into easy offense...
His RIDICULOUS (and instant) overall impact also was a lot due to his defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpEAZMT5t_U

Steph can't **** with that...

Stop with them dumb, ignorant hyperboles, please

And what's that talk about Curry surpassing Bird and Magic?

Getting a little ahead of ourselves there, to say the least, huh?
Steph has been simply amazing but let's not get there just yet... Shit, overrating much?

If Steph continued his current production throughout the season, where would you put this season among Magic and Bird's best seasons?

Assuming Curry averages 32/5/6 on 50/45/90 and wins MVP.

[Kvnzhangyay]

If Steph continued his current production throughout the season, where would you put this season among Magic and Bird's best seasons?

Assuming Curry averages 32/5/6 on 50/45/90 and wins MVP.

It's top 4 GOAT peak, over Bird and Magic rather easily

[dhsilv]

So why do they get a free pass while Curry doesn't?
Curry will surpass both Bird and Magic on the GOAT list. He is more dominant and efficient.

Bird was a GREAT defensive player....now magic is another story...

[Donkey4trading]

I agree with the first half of your post but at this. Let's see him get a Finals MVP vote first

your "objectiveness" is really getting exposed lately, just come out as the Lebron fan boy we all know you are

[dhsilv]

If Steph continued his current production throughout the season, where would you put this season among Magic and Bird's best seasons?

Assuming Curry averages 32/5/6 on 50/45/90 and wins MVP.

If he can keep this up, it's the best season in the history of the game. He won't though....it's just not possible, right?

[deja vu]

On par? You never watched Bird and Magic play, do you?

[SHAQisGOAT]

If Steph continued his current production throughout the season, where would you put this season among Magic and Bird's best seasons?

Assuming Curry averages 32/5/6 on 50/45/90 and wins MVP.

I don't know, it's still tough to say (and they played in different times) but, call it, hypothetically... That would've CERTAINLY surpassed any type of scoring+shooting displayed by Bird (or Magic, ofc) in the regular-season... But the playmaking/passing still can't **** with Magic's (not even Bird's), the rebounding still can't **** with Bird's (not even Magic's), and the defense is not even close to Bird's... So...

Also depends on what his team does and his impact towards their success (all of that has been terrific as of right now) and then, the most important thing, what he/they will do in the Playoffs... We'll see.

He's been playing at a scary level but when everything's considered...
-Bird has a top5 GOAT peak.
-Magic has a top10 GOAT peak.
^Stuff like that, what they "did"... It's EXTREMELY hard to overdo.

Anyways, like I've said he's been simply amazing but it's still a bit soon to talk about stuff like that...

[tmacattack33]

If Steph continued his current production throughout the season, where would you put this season among Magic and Bird's best seasons?

Assuming Curry averages 32/5/6 on 50/45/90 and wins MVP.

50/45/90 is good but it doesn't do what Curry is doing justice. Because he is shooting almost double the amount of three pointers that anyone else ever did.


Just use TS%. Curry is at 71 TS%. Anything above 60 TS% is amazing. MJ's best was 61.


If someone gets just one game where they score 30 points with a 70 TS% it is pretty amazing and I would be impressed. Well, Curry is AVERAGING that. LOL.


If he continues at 71 TS% this will be the most amazing season I've ever witnessed in any of the three sports I watch. That is impossible though. He will come back down. And then we can talk.

[SouBeachTalents]

your "objectiveness" is really getting exposed lately, just come out as the Lebron fan boy we all know you are

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=343651

One of the first threads I made on ISH

Hold this L

[SHAQisGOAT]

50/45/90 is good but it doesn't do what Curry is doing justice. Because he is shooting almost double the amount of three pointers that anyone else ever did.


Just use TS%. Curry is at 71 TS%. Anything above 60 TS% is amazing. MJ's best was 61.


If someone gets just one game where they score 30 points with a 70 TS% it is pretty amazing and I would be impressed. Well, Curry is AVERAGING that. LOL.


If he continues at 71 TS% this will be the most amazing season I've ever witnessed in any of the three sports I watch. That is impossible though. He will come back down. And then we can talk.

Gotta look at the whole picture though...

What's impressive here is his scoring+shooting plus his team success and his impact towards it... Most of that has been out of this World, as of right now, tbh...
Especially his scoring+shooting... Just

However, his playmaking/passing is not what you'd call special, his rebounding is pretty good for the position but nothing more, his defense is not great... Other ATG's easily shit on him in all of those things combined.

Plus, can't deny that his team is stacked and very few teams can even rival them right now.

With that said, and again, he's been simply amazing... If he can keep up that type of scoring and shooting, delivering clutch performances, if he keeps leading his team to that type of winning... Certainly will be one of the GOAT seasons... Don't know about THE GOAT though, some people just overreact present things; and then we'll see what happens in the Playoffs.