Best Player Post Jordan (1999) who is it?

[Killer_Instinct]

Any answer other than Shaq, Duncan, or Kobe is not accurate. Can't go wrong with either three.

[Eldrunko247]

Any answer other than Shaq, Duncan, or Kobe is not accurate. Can't go wrong with either three.

yes you can. kobe does not belong in the same category. sorry but he doesn't. shaq and tim both have four titles as "the man". Kobe has 0.

[jjayfive]

best individual would be kobe...
but team and individual accomplishments would have to be shaq or tim..

[jjayfive]

oh..i would have to add AI with kobe...

[Eldrunko247]

best individual would be kobe...
but team and individual accomplishments would have to be shaq or tim..

how is kobe individually better than shaq or duncan? shaq and duncan in their primes were more rounded players than Kobe. kobe is better because he can score in flashy ways or score 81 pts?

[Killer_Instinct]

yes you can. kobe does not belong in the same category. sorry but he doesn't. shaq and tim both have four titles as "the man". Kobe has 0.

Any answer other than Shaq, Duncan, or Kobe is not accurate. Can't go wrong with either three.

[guy]

how is kobe individually better than shaq or duncan? shaq and duncan in their primes were more rounded players than Kobe. kobe is better because he can score in flashy ways or score 81 pts?

Agreed. Shaq in 2000 and 2001 had two of the best statistical seasons ever and that easily trumps Kobe's best statistical season. Duncan in his MVP years in 2002 and 2003 is up there with any of Kobe's season as well. I think Kobe has a great shot to surpass Duncan and a reasonable shot to pass Shaq careerwise, but since 99, I don't see how anyone can put Kobe over these guys.

[Eldrunko247]

Any answer other than Shaq, Duncan, or Kobe is not accurate. Can't go wrong with either three.

You failed to explain in detail why Kobe belongs in that category.

[veilside23]

Gotta go with the big fella. Shaq.. no question.

[crisoner]

Shaq hands down
Followed by Duncan


I would call this decade the Shaq and Duncan decade really.

[Killer_Instinct]

You failed to explain in detail why Kobe belongs in that category.

3-time NBA champion: 2000, 2001, 2002
NBA Most Valuable Player: 2008
2-time scoring champion: 2006, 2007
10-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Has started in each of his appearances
10 consecutive appearances (No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002, 2007
10-time All-NBA Selection:
First Team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
Second Team: 2000, 2001
Third Team: 1999, 2005
8-time All-Defensive Selection:
First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008
Second Team: 2001, 2002
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1997
NBA regular season leader in:
points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832, 7th in NBA history), 2007 (2,430), 2008 (2,323)
points per game: 2006 (35.4, 9th in NBA history), 2007 (31.6)
field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173), 2007 (1,757), 2008 (1,690)
field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978), 2007 (813)
free throws attempted: 2006 (819), 2007 (768)
free throws made: 2006 (696), 2007 (667)
2nd most points in a Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors)

NBA records
Kobe Bryant holds four and shares five NBA records:

Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Donyell Marshall)[90]
Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; shared with 6 players).[90]
Most consecutive three-point field goals made, one game: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; shared with Latrell Sprewell and Ben Gordon).[91]
Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; shared with 6 players).[92][93]
Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; shared with 6 players).[92][93]
Youngest player to score 15,000 points: (27 Years, 136 days)
Youngest player to score 20,000 points: (29 years, 122 days old), surpassing Wilt Chamberlain, the previous holder of the record. Bryant also became one of the only three players to reach the milestone under the age of 30. The other two are Chamberlain (29 years, 134 days old) and Michael Jordan (29 years, 326 days old).[94]
Youngest Slam Dunk champion: (18 years, 175 days), after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend.
Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999–00)[95]
Youngest player to start a game: (18 Years, 158 days)

Lakers franchise records
Kobe Bryant holds or shares 30 Los Angeles Lakers franchise records:

Points
Season: 2,832 (2005–06)
Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors)[96][4]
Half: 55 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors).[96]
Quarter: 30 (twice, most recently on November 30, 2006 in 3rd quarter vs. Utah Jazz)[96]
Games scoring 50 points or more, career: 23[95]
Games scoring 50 points or more, season: 10 (2006–07)[95]
Games scoring 40 points or more, career: 92[97]
Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005–06)[98]
Consecutive games of 50 points or more: 4 (March 16–March 23, 2007)[99]
Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6–February 23, 2003)[100]

Field goals made
Half: 18 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors).[101]
Quarter: 11 (February 2, 1999 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[102]
Free throws made
Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks).[103]
Game, playoffs: 21 (May 4, 2008 vs. Utah Jazz).[104]
Half: 16 (January 30, 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers)[105]
Quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks)[106]
Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; May 8, 1997 vs. Utah Jazz).[107]
Consecutive: 62 (January 11–January 22, 2006).[96]
Three-point field goals made and attempted
Career: 1,086 (1996–present)[2]
Career, playoffs: 177 (1996–present)[108]
Game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[91]
Half: 8 (1st half, March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards).[109]
Consecutive: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[91]
Season attempts: 518 (2005–06)[2]
Game attempts: 18 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics).[91]
Steals
Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz).[110]
Quarter, playoffs: 3 (tied with 6 players; May 17, 1999 vs. San Antonio Spurs).[111]
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I don't expect you to look at all of those, I didn't even look at all of those. His resume stacks up good against Shaq and Duncan. I'm sure theres is even better. The two have been the most winningnest guys in the L. Kobe has been the most talented. Yada yada yada, blah, blah, blah. If you don't think so, fine. At the end of the day, who really cares about this? I'm bored just thinking about it. This has been went over 1000 times. There are different opinions in the world that matter, unless this is Nazi Germany.

Fourtantley, I'm glad I don't live in China now and you're not Head of the Gov't or I'd be castrated for my beliefs. Imagine that. Everyone is wrong but you. That's how you're coming off. Shaq and Duncan have been great. They always delivered on the big stage, and Kobe at time dissapeared when it mattered the most. This years Finals showing by him was horrible. But considering the feats he's accomplished though over the last few years, he is still in the mix. That's why it's arguable. It's an opinion. Did I say fact? I'm sorry you don't agree, but at the end of the day, I really could care less if someone doesn't think Kobe is a Post Jordan great.

Does it matter? It won't affect what these guys accomplish in the future. You have your beliefs, the guy next door has his. Doesn't make any of them wrong.


You're not changing my view on the subject, I'm not changing yours. Move on and let's get laid...


(No Homo!!!)

[nycelt84]

Shaquille O'Neal with Tim Duncan a close second.

[Loki]

Its so much thats goes into legacy but based on best player which u asked its Kobe Bryant.

That's nonsense. The best player is the most effective player. Both Shaq (by far) and Duncan have been more effective players than Kobe Bryant.

[Scott Pippen]

Tim Duncan

[Knoe Itawl]

*yawn*

Same old thing. The Kobe Fans have to put him somewhere that no one else is. Can't they just be sent to their rooms or something?

It goes:

Duncan/Shaq
KG

The Rest