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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Disaprine
    clutch stats should be how they perform in the entire forth quarter.
    it should be a ton of different things.

    - game winners with 24 seconds left
    - game winners with 10 seconds left
    - play with 5 minutes left in tight games
    - play with 3 minutes left in tight games
    - team offensive production in tight games
    - team record in tight games

    and probably more. it should be a ton of different things. not just one criteria.

    for example, melo is much better than kobe on game winners, but i'll take kobe in the 4th qtr in a tight game over melo every single time.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Bron should not be shooting three's in the clutch

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by ginobli2311
    yet another clutch stat that favors dirk. shocking.
    If you take away three point attempts... Kobe would have better % so GTFO!

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by ginobli2311
    it should be a ton of different things.

    - game winners with 24 seconds left
    - game winners with 10 seconds left
    - play with 5 minutes left in tight games
    - play with 3 minutes left in tight games
    - team offensive production in tight games
    - team record in tight games

    and probably more. it should be a ton of different things. not just one criteria.

    for example, melo is much better than kobe on game winners, but i'll take kobe in the 4th qtr in a tight game over melo every single time.
    your probably right, but the entire 4th quarter alone should be on top of the list.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
    If you take away three point attempts... Kobe would have better % so GTFO!
    what?

    dirk has made 11 shots out of 24. kobe has made 13 out of 37.

    if these numbers are right there is absolutely no way you can slice them to make kobe better.

    especially if those free throw numbers are right. i want to call bs because i don't think kobe chokes at the line that badly. but if those are right. ouch.

    maybe kobe should stop taking so many threes? ever thought of that. if he did, maybe the lakers would win more tight games like dirk and the mavs.

    mavs have the best record in tight games since 05 in the entire league. boasting an amazing 75-32 record:

    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...ame/index.html
    Last edited by ginobli2311; 03-27-2011 at 11:30 PM.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by bl2k8
    Bron should not be shooting three's in the clutch
    1/21 lol

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
    If you take away three point attempts... Kobe would have better % so GTFO!
    Wow. If you take away all the bad shots anyone has ever taken, then of course the FG would be better. But sadly, you can't do that my friend.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim










    I'm really amazed at the free throws by Kobe. I wonder if he missed a few on purpose. Wow.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by EnoughSaid
    Wow. If you take away all the bad shots anyone has ever taken, then of course the FG would be better. But sadly, you can't do that my friend.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk Hogan
    If you take away three point attempts... Kobe would have better % so GTFO!
    And if you take out 3 point shot attempts from Kobe/LeBron, their percentages become almost the same. It means absolutely nothing. Either use all of the stats or none at all, but don't just be selective to make whomever you love look better.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    whats up with wade 5/43 ?

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave3
    And if you take out 3 point shot attempts from Kobe/LeBron, their percentages become almost the same. It means absolutely nothing. Either use all of the stats or none at all, but don't just be selective to make whomever you love look better.
    the three pointers show just how many terrible shots that kobe is taking. he's a great shooter. the only way he misses that many is because he's taking a ton of bad shots. which is his problem. he doesn't pass. so his efficiency in these situations suck and the Lakers offensive efficiency in these situations also sucks. and the lakers record in tight games isn't nearly as good as it should be.

    this really has to hurt hulk. another stat in favor of dirk.....

    1. mavs have a better record in tight games
    2. mavs have a better offense in tight games
    3. dirk makes a better percentage of game winners with 24 seconds or less left
    4. dirk makes a better percentage of game winners with 10 seconds or less left

    its really starting to add up now.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by ginobli2311
    I'm really amazed at the free throws by Kobe. I wonder if he missed a few on purpose. Wow.
    It's 4 misses over a 4 year span, no real explanation for it.

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    Default Re: NBA TV: Clutch stats of Kobe, Wade, and Lebron

    Quote Originally Posted by Colby Brian
    whats up with wade 5/43 ?
    Predictability.

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