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sahelanthropus
I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
...but I'm sure if the Cavs do go with him, they'll be pretty confident about his health from workouts/examinations. Incredible, incredible upside.
Even if he's cleared, I'd still have a hard time taking him though, since it seems like a red flag. If there are two guys who look like sure-thing generational talents, why not take the one who doesn't have injury concerns?
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
If they take Embiid, i'm gonna laugh my fcuking ass off. Two blown #1 picks in consecutive drafts.
Imagine if they'd taken Noel last year, and Wiggins this year.
Kyrie Irving
Dion Waiters
Andrew Wiggins
Tristan Thompson
Nerlens Noel
Holy fukk, what could have been...
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
I wouldn't touch Embiid with a ten foot pole picks 1-5 or so.
Couldn't even play in the NCAA tourney due to injury.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Wiggins is a beta.
I'd take Parker first overall if I was Cleveland. Embiid's health is too much of a concern.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
If Cleveland are actually serious about LeBron possibly coming back and preparing a roster for him, Embiid is the right guy to go with (given he clears his medicals)
Irving
Waiters
LeBron
Bennett/Thompson
Embiid
is a good enough supporting cast, don't know if they keep Hawes/Varejao etc
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Red Nation
Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
I wouldn't touch Embiid with a ten foot pole picks 1-5 or so.
Couldn't even play in the NCAA tourney due to injury.
What does that have to do with his skill and potential?
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sahelanthropus
Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by russwest0
Wiggins is a beta.
I'd take Parker first overall if I was Cleveland. Embiid's health is too much of a concern.
True, but even if Kyrie isn't as good a player, he has an alpha mentality. D-Wait too.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
It's a tough call though, no doubt. History rewards those who take risks, so passing on Embiid and his potential would be hard as hell to do.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by russwest0
Wiggins is a beta.
I'd take Parker first overall if I was Cleveland. Embiid's health is too much of a concern.
Wiggins is not a beta. People think because he is not out grabbing his dlck and scowling at the crowd that he is somehow not willing to step up.
You saw what he did when he started taking ovewr, 40+ points, 30+ points, for a team that has a lot of shooters.
Hardly Beta material. He's been the man since he was 14, you just suck at life, same way you picked the wrong Thunder player.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by Smook A.
What does that have to do with his skill and potential?
Seeing as how skill and potential are meaningless if you can't play, i'd say everything?
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by JtotheIzzo
Wiggins is not a beta. People think because he is not out grabbing his dlck and scowling at the crowd that he is somehow not willing to step up.
You saw what he did when he started taking ovewr, 40+ points, 30+ points, for a team that has a lot of shooters.
Hardly Beta material. He's been the man since he was 14, you just suck at life, same way you picked the wrong Thunder player.
he went out of the tournament shooting 1-6 and scoring like 5 points. He's quite easily the biggest beta among the prospects at the top of the draft board.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by JtotheIzzo
Wiggins is not a beta. People think because he is not out grabbing his dlck and scowling at the crowd that he is somehow not willing to step up.
You saw what he did when he started taking ovewr, 40+ points, 30+ points, for a team that has a lot of shooters.
Hardly Beta material. He's been the man since he was 14, you just suck at life, same way you picked the wrong Thunder player.
I don't care either way but I wanted to add something to this thread. Just last week, Bill Self did interviews on two sports radio stations in Philly. In each interview when asked what Wiggins needed to improve on Self said this "ya know he doesn't have that alpha dog mentality yet. I'm not saying he can't get it but it doesn't come natural for him. I'd like to see him be more of an alpha dog." He went on to say that he still thinks that he'll be a fantastic player and has tons of upside.
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Red Nation
Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
Seeing as how skill and potential are meaningless if you can't play, i'd say everything?
I doubt he become injury prone. If he does... then sucks for him and the team that drafts him.
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by russwest0
he went out of the tournament shooting 1-6 and scoring like 5 points. He's quite easily the biggest beta among the prospects at the top of the draft board.
Stop this beta/alpha garbage
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Re: I don't think you can take Embiid over Wiggins...
Originally Posted by moe94
Stop this beta/alpha garbage
look above. even his coach (arguably the best coach in college basketball) called him a beta...
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