Imagine a league where Harden is the best player.....

[egokiller]

It's because of the current rule set, however MJ in this soft ass league of no hand checking and no defense being allowed to be played would be 45/8/9.

Harden playing when MJ played is a 18ppg player. Just further evidence that MJ's rings back then are worth 9 rings in today's game.

[Manny98]

He's not even top 5 come playoff time

[Smook A.]

It's because of the current rule set, however MJ in this soft ass league of no hand checking and no defense being allowed to be played would be 45/8/9.

Harden playing when MJ played is a 18ppg player. Just further evidence that MJ's rings back then are worth 9 rings in today's game.

That's a stupid statement. Defenses were tougher back then for sure, but Harden would adapt to it. You don't think he knows about how soft the rules are today? He uses them to his advantage. Im sure if he played in the 80s and 90s, he'd still find a way to draw fouls. Hell, Jordan was averaging more FTA in '87 than Harden is averaging right now.

Harden's a really strong guard too, and since the league back then wasn't heavy at all with 3 pointers, he'd be driving to the paint more. He's a pretty good finisher around the rim. Not only that, but when he can shoot from mid-range too. Rarely does it though, since the Rockets are all about 3's and points inside the paint area.

At the end of the day, Harden is a very skilled player and a hard worker because of his love for the game. No way would he just be averaging 18 ppg in Jordan's era. Not 36 ppg either. Probably around 24-28 ppg. We'll never find out, though. Just appreciate what he's doing right now. He's putting up historic numbers and they're translating into wins. Wins are the most important thing.

[And1AllDay]

Yeah Mike played in the legal zone defense era he splashed around on some ballin 20/5/4 on 42%

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[StrongLurk]

How would MJ score 45 a game when he didn't shoot threes?

Are you saying MJ would be shooting at least 30 times a game?

[G0ATbe]

If Demar Derozan were averaging anything near 45/8/9 you might have a point.

[Sportal]

Harden vs SG defenders between 6' and 6'3???

Lol.

[egokiller]

How would MJ score 45 a game when he didn't shoot threes?

Are you saying MJ would be shooting at least 30 times a game?

The statement is based on MJ coming into the league when Harden did. He'd be able to shoot 3's no problem. Any aspect of his game he wanted to improve, he did. The only ones he didn't improve are the ones where he saw no value in spending time on. Instead, he spent that time on improving other skills. We are talking about a guy who wasted no energy making the wrong move on the court, just like he wasted no time working on things in his training that didn't fully benefit him.

[egokiller]

That's a stupid statement. Defenses were tougher back then for sure, but Harden would adapt to it. You don't think he knows about how soft the rules are today? He uses them to his advantage. Im sure if he played in the 80s and 90s, he'd still find a way to draw fouls. Hell, Jordan was averaging more FTA in '87 than Harden is averaging right now.

Harden's a really strong guard too, and since the league back then wasn't heavy at all with 3 pointers, he'd be driving to the paint more. He's a pretty good finisher around the rim. Not only that, but when he can shoot from mid-range too. Rarely does it though, since the Rockets are all about 3's and points inside the paint area.

At the end of the day, Harden is a very skilled player and a hard worker because of his love for the game. No way would he just be averaging 18 ppg in Jordan's era. Not 36 ppg either. Probably around 24-28 ppg. We'll never find out, though. Just appreciate what he's doing right now. He's putting up historic numbers and they're translating into wins. Wins are the most important thing.

No, the only thing he is good at is capitalizing on this current shitty rule set. Most players have too much self respect to flop all around and exploit the rules. He'd be an 18 ppg scorer when MJ played.

Anyone who's watched both eras will tell you the same thing.

[FKAri]

No, the only thing he is good at is capitalizing on this current shitty rule set. Most players have too much self respect to flop all around and exploit the rules. He'd be an 18 ppg scorer when MJ played.

Anyone who's watched both eras will tell you the same thing.

I've been watching since the 80's. Harden would definitely put up more than 18ppg if he was on a team built around him.

[ElPigto]

No, the only thing he is good at is capitalizing on this current shitty rule set. Most players have too much self respect to flop all around and exploit the rules. He'd be an 18 ppg scorer when MJ played.

Anyone who's watched both eras will tell you the same thing.

Yet we have floppers all over the league trying to draw fouls while playing defense. You have Durant's rip through move. You have Giannis and LeBron putting their shoulders down and charging at defenders.

You are pathetic. Players will do what will give them an advantage. You think the Warriors had any self respect setting moving screens over and over so Steph and Klay could get wide open looks. You think they were so embarrassed of themselves while hugging their championship trophies?

What about Kawhi constantly moving that pivot foot while posting up? You think he has self respect that he will stop doing it?? Lol.

You haters suck at hating. At least come up with better reasons.

[SpaceJam2]

It's because of the current rule set, however MJ in this soft ass league of no hand checking and no defense being allowed to be played would be 45/8/9.

Harden playing when MJ played is a 18ppg player. Just further evidence that MJ's rings back then are worth 9 rings in today's game.

[egokiller]

Yet we have floppers all over the league trying to draw fouls while playing defense. You have Durant's rip through move. You have Giannis and LeBron putting their shoulders down and charging at defenders.

You are pathetic. Players will do what will give them an advantage. You think the Warriors had any self respect setting moving screens over and over so Steph and Klay could get wide open looks. You think they were so embarrassed of themselves while hugging their championship trophies?

What about Kawhi constantly moving that pivot foot while posting up? You think he has self respect that he will stop doing it?? Lol.

You haters suck at hating. At least come up with better reasons.

Someone is upset that Harden is being called out for what he is. Nice shit posting. You actually think certain players don't have the ability to flop as much as Harden does?

[egokiller]

I've been watching since the 80's. Harden would definitely put up more than 18ppg if he was on a team built around him.

Sure you have. This alt was already confirmed Simon. Try again.

[elementally morale]

Great players would find a way to be very good in any era.

I really dislike watching Harden play, but he is very good. Sure, he wouldn't put up this many points in 2004 or 1988. But he would be a top 10 player regardless of rules and playing style. Maybe even top 5.

As for the Jordan comments... yeah. MJ would learn to shoot threes a lot sooner and he would shoot them at a 36-38% clip if he were to play today. And yeah, centers from the 60s would be great centers today. Different game? Sure. They would adjust.

Evolution is a slow process.