Harden is a Selfish Player

[Smook A.]

It's a crazy statline but then you find out he went 13 for 31 from the floor and 7 for 23 from 3.

Yeah and Rockets got the win tonight, which is the most important thing. Houston's bench scored a WHOPPING 3 POINTS. Just because Harden is putting up big numbers, doesn't mean he's selfish. In fact, Rockets have a better win percentage when he scores 40 or more and it's not like he doesn't pass the ball whenever he scores big. He's top 5 in total assists this year.

[Marchesk]

The Rockets are going to win 50+ games. There have been similar statistically dominant seasons to Harden where the player's team won less games (Kobe, Jordan, Kareem, Archibald, McAdoo, Wilt).

[StrongLurk]

There will never be a volume three point shooter like Harden who also leads the league in free throw shooting...and is also elite at free throws.

Seriously, Harden is breaking every conventional mold of volume 3 point shooters.

Harden tied the record for most missed 3's in a game...yet still made 7 3's, went to the free throw line 18 times, and scored 50 points...that shit should be impossible.

[Smook A.]

The Rockets are going to win 50+ games. There have been similar statistically dominant seasons to Harden where the player's team won less games (Kobe, Jordan, Kareem, Archibald, McAdoo, Wilt).

Exactly. Rockets will likely finish with 52-53 wins for the season. No one could have expected that after they started 11-14. Not even me tbh. The team bounced back because of Harden stepping up.

He's averaged 40/7/7/2 for the LAST 52 GAMES

Morons here wanna call him selfish and say he only plays for stats. Give me a ****ing break

[Rudeboy3]

It's a crazy statline but then you find out he went 13 for 31 from the floor and 7 for 23 from 3.

There's nothing impressive about his scoring outputs, he's a volume scorer that chucks up loads of shots and shoots a disproportionate amount of fts

[ElPigto]

There's nothing impressive about his scoring outputs, he's a volume scorer that chucks up loads of shots and shoots a disproportionate amount of fts

And wins lol. His record against the best teams in the NBA is also elite. You always hating on Harden, but facts are facts. Go ahead, bring up the same ole playoff argument to discredit the insanity of what he has done this season.

[Smook A.]

There's nothing impressive about his scoring outputs, he's a volume scorer that chucks up loads of shots and shoots a disproportionate amount of fts

What the **** are you talking about? Giannis shoots 1.8 FTA less than Harden does this season. Don't even act like that's a big difference. Embiid shoots 0.9 less than Harden.

Didn't Giannis shoot 21 free throws in his 52 point game?

"B-b-b-but efficiency tho!" Harden's TS% is 3% less than Giannis'. One's a guard who takes more threes than twos, and the other guy dunks a lot. Again, not taking anything away from Giannis because he's an amazing player but don't sit here and act like Harden's scoring this season isn't impressive. What the hell do you want him to do, put up Wilt numbers? Dude's averaging 36.4 ppg and averaging the most points per possession in the history of the NBA AND it's translating into wins. **** outta here

[Rudeboy3]

What the **** are you talking about? Giannis shoots 1.8 FTA less than Harden does this season. Don't even act like that's a big difference. Embiid shoots 0.9 less than Harden.

Didn't Giannis shoot 21 free throws in his 52 point game?

"B-b-b-but efficiency tho!" Harden's TS% is 3% less than Giannis'. One's a guard who takes more threes than twos, and the other guy dunks a lot. Again, not taking anything away from Giannis because he's an amazing player but don't sit here and act like Harden's scoring this season isn't impressive. What the hell do you want him to do, put up Wilt numbers? Dude's averaging 36.4 ppg and averaging the most points per possession in the history of the NBA AND it's translating into wins. **** outta here

Are you seriously comparing Giannis (a frontcourt player) fts to a perimeter player in harden? You're an idiot, drink bleach

[Rudeboy3]

And wins lol. His record against the best teams in the NBA is also elite. You always hating on Harden, but facts are facts. Go ahead, bring up the same ole playoff argument to discredit the insanity of what he has done this season.

Foh, they won because of Capella and cp3, they won in spite of harden chucking up shots

[ElPigto]

Foh, they won because of Capella and cp3, they won in spite of harden chucking up shots

Look at you, pathetic beyond belief. Harden was winning games without those two earlier this season. Go ahead you pathetic piece of shit, keep on hating because you don

[elementally morale]

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Long time no see.

[ElPigto]

Long time no see.

Here I am so many years surfing these boards even with the infestation of a bunch of young kids. Good to see you are still around.

[elementally morale]

Good to see you are still around.

Most of the time in safe mode only (with networking).

[Mr.GOAT2408]

It's a crazy statline but then you find out he went 13 for 31 from the floor and 7 for 23 from 3.

He's got the strangest statlines

When you dig deep you see all these 12-32 where he goes like 7-24 on 3s and 5-8 on 2s (either it's a layup or floater, he avoids the midrange like the plague) with like 7+ turnovers. And of course a ton of free throws despite ridiculous amount of 3s that literally no one else fouled on. If he goes say 14/14 from the line that's basically 45 points on 39 shots, pretty efficient even in today's pace and space NBA. That's not an actual statline he's produced (afaik) but he's had several of those games

But when you factor all the turnovers + the lack of ball movement I never thought his offense was as impactful as it looks. Looking at the above that's 20 wasted posessions + roughly 8-12 points given up off turnovers. Factor an average at best defense (that's being generous tbh) and his impact in't as high as ts% or his apg would imply. One plus though is putting other teams in foul trouble, there's that

apg is such an overrated stat too, assist hunting isn't as useful as it looks. Ball movement makes the Warriors so dangerous, same for pretty much every dynasty and mini-dynasty that's existed

[kurple]

So selfish, yet he wins.

You're mad as hell. We love it.

Maybe they would win more if he played more like Jokic?