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Old 09-26-2019, 11:26 AM   #16
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

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No wonder MJ feared him!


Basically this. Hakeemís impending rise was obvious, and in hindsight we can see Jorían blatantly ducked him. Itís a stain on Joríans legacy and one reason Lebron was able to pass him as early as he did.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:21 PM   #17
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

If the FMVP and DPOY existed in the 60's Bill Russell would have easily accomplished this in...
1962- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, and led his team in scoring, rebounding, and fg% in the finals.

1963- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, avg. 20ppg in the finals with dominant rebounding and defense in the finals

1965- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, avg. 17.8ppg on a still standing record for a 5 game series 70.2 fg% with dominant rebounding and defense in the finals


Wilt would have accomplished this is 1967. His '67 season is arguably the peak all around season in league history. He won the MVP, had a GOAT level defensive performance, and did the same in the finals. That season, Russell stated that Wilt had figured out how to play like him but better.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:44 PM   #18
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

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I just wish I could peek into an alternate universe where Houston agreed to the offer of Drexler and the #2 pick for Sampson which gives the Rockets and big 3 of Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler.

They legit may have approached the 60s Celtics.

What the hell do you do with Hakeem down low and Jordan and Drexler on the wings?
That's insane

Porter at point, MJ at SG, Drexler at SF, Buck at PF and imagine in that universe, Sabonis coming over from Europe to play center.

As a Bulls fan, thank goodness that didn't materialize
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:30 PM   #19
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90ís was an absolute shit era and he didnít get it done the majority of the time
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:26 AM   #20
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

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Everyone knows that LeBron deserved the DPOY over Gasol in 2013 so it counts


"everyone" = basically "my retarded brain"
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:38 AM   #21
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

Giannis can do it. So can Embiid especially with Philly looking to be a nightmare defensively this season

@The above post. LeBron was closer to 3rd in DPOY voting than he was to beating Gasol in 2013. Or put a different way, LeBron was as “close” to beating Gasol as the 7th place finisher was to finishing ahead of LeBron

Gasol kinda ran away with it and was the favorite the whole year. So that “everyone knows” narrative is pretty hilarious
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:40 AM   #22
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

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Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90’s was an absolute shit era and he didn’t get it done the majority of the time

Overrated? He didn't have all-time great teammates for most of his career. He finally got some when he was in his mid-30s and so were others.

When he won 58 games and MVP/DPOY/FMVP, Otis Thorpe was his 2nd option at 14 points per game. He absolutely carried an average roster to a title. He led the team in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for the entire title run in 1994.

90's is absolute shit to you because you weren't alive for most of it and don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:51 AM   #23
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Giannis can do it. So can Embiid especially with Philly looking to be a nightmare defensively this season

@The above post. LeBron was closer to 3rd in DPOY voting than he was to beating Gasol in 2013. Or put a different way, LeBron was as “close” to beating Gasol as the 7th place finisher was to finishing ahead of LeBron

Gasol kinda ran away with it and was the favorite the whole year. So that “everyone knows” narrative is pretty hilarious
Ok but LeBron is still the ONLY perimeter player ever to win MVP, finals MVP and finish top 2 in DPOY in the same year

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Old 09-27-2019, 05:59 AM   #24
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Ok but LeBron is still the ONLY perimeter player ever to win MVP, finals MVP and finish top 2 in DPOY in the same year

We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:03 AM   #25
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We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.
Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:05 AM   #26
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We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.
MJ didn't win MVP that year

So only LeBron can MVP and Finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

MJ simply didn't have what it takes to accomplish such a feat
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Old 09-27-2019, 06:31 AM   #27
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Default Re: Hakeem won MVP, finals MVP, and DPOY in 93-94. How many others did it?

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Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though

It's arbitrary. Jordan has done DPOY and scoring title and MVP in the same season. We are talking about a random arbitrary combination that has only been done by Hakeem.

And Lebron certainly wasn't close to winning it in 2013 because the gap between Gasol and him was huge.

We have a few players who have won FMVp, MVP and dPOY in different years. But they've checked all boxes and won all of them. Lebron never won DPOY so this is a moot point.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:01 AM   #28
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It's arbitrary. Jordan has done DPOY and scoring title and MVP in the same season. We are talking about a random arbitrary combination that has only been done by Hakeem.

And Lebron certainly wasn't close to winning it in 2013 because the gap between Gasol and him was huge.

We have a few players who have won FMVp, MVP and dPOY in different years. But they've checked all boxes and won all of them. Lebron never won DPOY so this is a moot point.
Players to win MVP and finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

LeBron
Hakeem

Sorry but MJ didn't make this exclusive GOAT club


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Old 09-27-2019, 07:02 AM   #29
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Players to win MVP and finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

LeBron
Hakeem

Sorry but MJ didn't make this exclusive GOAT club
Shaq too, and Jordan actually won a DPOY
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:12 AM   #30
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Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though

He was by far the best player in the league that year. MJ suffered because the voters/league didn't want to give him the award every single year but he still led the league in scoring, steals, PER, winshares, +/-, VORP.

Jordan's won MVP and DPOY in the same season so I don't think it matters either way. Lebron has never won DPOY or played well enough on that end to be considered one.
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