Could any version of MJ do what LeBron did in 2016?

[TheCorporation]

Could Jordan elevate Kyrie like LeBron? Or would his need to score 15ppg more monopolize the team’s offense?

Thank you. It's always been my point that haters talk about how LeBron is a bad leader yet he elevated Kyrie to a level nobody thought was possible. A non All Star at that.



It didn't just happen magically...

[3ball]

Absolutely, positively not.





MJ = 1/5 (Points)
Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

Is MJ the only star that was carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

MJ carried Pippen:


91-93' Playoffs (1st three-peat)

Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.7 on 51.7%.. 6.6 apg.. 31.1 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.9 tov.. 29.5 PER
Pippen:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 20.1 on 47.3%.. 6.1 apg.. 23.3 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 3.4 tov...19.6 PER

96-98' Playoffs (2nd three-peat)

Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 22.3 ast %.. 1.6 spg.. 2.3 tov.. 27.3 PER
Pippen:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 22.0 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.5 tov.. 19.0 PER

Goat scoring load, team-leading passer, goat defender at position, goat clutch = GOAT (easily)
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[TheCorporation]

MJ carried Pippen:


91-93' Playoffs (1st three-peat)

Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.7 on 51.7%.. 6.6 apg.. 31.1 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.9 tov.. 29.5 PER
Pippen:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 20.1 on 47.3%.. 6.1 apg.. 23.3 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 3.4 tov...19.6 PER

96-98' Playoffs (2nd three-peat)

Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 22.3 ast %.. 1.6 spg.. 2.3 tov.. 27.3 PER
Pippen:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 22.0 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.5 tov.. 19.0 PER

Goat scoring load, team-leading passer, goat defender at position, goat clutch = GOAT (easily)
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We get it. He is a good dunker against short guards...

How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I don’t think so. Jordan wasn’t capable of leading everyone in everything for a grueling 7 game series. Jordan’s necessity for scoring 15ppg more than the 2nd option would have monopolized the offense. Only LeBron Ball was capable of beating a 73 win team

Fact: 95-96 Bulls are the *only* team in NBA history to win 70+ games and the 'chip. Jordan was the FMVP of that team.


Meaning, in case you don't understand - Jordan was "the one who knocks".

[Phoenix]

[QUOTE=Vino24]Could Jordan elevate Kyrie like LeBron? Or would his need to score 15ppg more monopolize the team

[Manny98]

Jordan could never beat a team as good as the Warriors, his ceiling was the Utah Jazz

And MJ doesn't have the all around game to lead in all categories he's just a scorer

[Elosha]

Jordan won multiple titles as the only allstar including at 35 years of age. Could Lebron actually hit the game winning shot in the finals as a buzzer beater or with 7 seconds left in the game to win the title by a point?

Could Lebron actually only win gold medals like MJ did? Could Lebron actually go undefeated in series with HCA without losing to career losers in Dwight Howard with it? Could Lebron actually build a team from the ground up where no one was ever an allstar before playing with him and actually win? He hasn't shown that ability.

This. Sometimes, the best answer is just a simple reality check. Everything above isn't hyperbole, or what if's. All of this really happened, which is why LeBron will never have a good argument for GOAT over MJ. LeBron's an ATG. Why can't that be enough for his fans?

[ImKobe]

Yes he could in the modern era. He's already had a Finals series of leading his team in everything but rebounding, now imagine if his bigs were rotated around like the Cavs did with Love, TT and RJ to skew the totals in his favor.

[LeCola]

No, because there will be no 3-1 lead for Gsw. Jordan would probably win it 4-1 with Irving and Love.

Absolutely, positively not.





MJ = 1/5 (Points)
Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

Is MJ the only star that was carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

So that stats show:

A-) Jordan>Pippen>Lebron

Or

B-) Jordan increases his teammates' performances and succeed with collaborating, instead of Lebron sucks teammates bloods to increase his stats and as a result of that loses finals.

[Vino24]

LeBron was basically Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman rolled into one. Never seen a player go all out like that

[Hey Yo]

Kyrie scored just as much in game 5 and did it on much better efficiency. Combining that and his series ending shot, he said "fvck it, I'm out." If LeBron was as good as MJ, Kyrie would never have left. LeBron is just a 6 time finals loser that needed Kyrie and Ray Allen to cause him to not be 1-9.

But according to you, the guy guarding Kyie was injured and was the reason why the Cavs won.

Propping up Kyrie for playing well against his alleged injured defensive opposition Curry??

[ballinhun8]

92 and 93 MJ.


Still athletically dominant. Absolute terror on defense. Still fresh legs. And the most important part, he was already a champion. So he knew what it would take to have to win.


But, I don't know who gets Draymond suspended. Grant? Cartwright? Pippen?


I guess you could go MJ too but he's not really a troll who would teabag a dude on the court.

[Hey Yo]

Jordan won multiple titles as the only allstar including at 35 years of age. Could Lebron actually hit the game winning shot in the finals as a buzzer beater or with 7 seconds left in the game to win the title by a point?

Could Lebron actually only win gold medals like MJ did? Could Lebron actually go undefeated in series with HCA without losing to career losers in Dwight Howard with it? Could Lebron actually build a team from the ground up where no one was ever an allstar before playing with him and actually win? He hasn't shown that ability.

Jordan never won a title w/o an NBA all-defensive teammate

MJ has 5 titles were Pippen was All-NBA on both sides of the floor while Rodman was NBA all defensive team in '96 and lead the league in rebounding in all 3 years.

Making All-NBA >>>>>> All-Star team

[LostCause]

Jordan from 89-93 was just as dominant all-around as LeBron has ever been, so I'd say any version of him from those years

[TheCorporation]

Well no, and for a number of reasons.


1) He'd have to get more than four reb and two assists

2). He would face actual perimeter defense (Dray, Klay, Iggy) not John Starks and Hornacek

3).He would need to shoot threes, which he is horrible at

4). He would need to elevate Kyrie to a level nobody thought imaginable

5). He would have to pull off the greatest 3-game stretch in finals history, belonging to a one King James