Arenas on MJ vs Kobe . 36YR OLD MJ as good as Prime Kobe

[warriorfan]

Gilbert said MJ jumps higher than Vince.... i TOLD y'all ******

It is pretty obvious. Vince gets up there and has very impressive dunks but Vince clearly never had the hang time MJ had.

[ClipperRevival]

I disagree with Arenas. Vince jumped higher than MJ. How do I know this? Easy. Look at where their heads are at in relation to the rim when they dunk. No wing player has close as as many head right at the rim dunks than Vince. MJ was more acrobatic, agile and flexible but in terms of sheer elevation, Vince tops MJ.

[kennethgriffin]

am i the only one that knows jordan never even played ball at age 36

[HighFlyer23]

MJ did not jump higher than Vince

As for MJs "hang time" ... Many of those plays were travels as his feet touched the floor before he got the shot up.

[ShawkFactory]

am i the only one that knows jordan never even played ball at age 36

Doesn't matter. He could have come out of retirement and been just as good.

[TheBigVeto]

mj already said kobes better

'mj' as is 'moron jackasses' not michael jordan the basketball player

[jstern]

I've looked into who could jump higher between Jordan and Vince. And Vince, while having longer arms, could not jump anywhere near the the distance Jordan jumped, when attempting to do a free throw dunk. And believe me, if Vince could dunk from the free throw line, he would. He couldn't despite having longer arms. He's still the GOAT dunker though.

[Smoke117]

38 year old Jordan played better defense than Kobe in his big shit 06 season. I honestly don't know if you can get more pathetic than this delusion that Kobe was even close to a very good defender career wise or all time. (LOL)

[TripleA]

What people don't understand is that you cannot see a person's vertical when they are dunking. Their true vertical is without the ball.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The only version(s) of Mike I wouldn't 100% take over Kobe are the Wizards years.

Even as a rookie, I feel that MJ's game was incredibly polished and efficient. I'd have more confidence in him than Kobe in his prime.

[ClipperRevival]

What people don't understand is that you cannot see a person's vertical when they are dunking. Their true vertical is without the ball.

It's the complete opposite. Since MJ and Vince are about the same height, where their head is in relation to the rim is the truest measure of how high they are actually jumping without considering wingspan and reach.

[ClipperRevival]

I've looked into who could jump higher between Jordan and Vince. And Vince, while having longer arms, could not jump anywhere near the the distance Jordan jumped, when attempting to do a free throw dunk. And believe me, if Vince could dunk from the free throw line, he would. He couldn't despite having longer arms. He's still the GOAT dunker though.

In terms of covering distance, yes, MJ could jump further away than Vince. But I am talking up straight up vertical.

[Droid101]

38 year old Jordan played better defense than Kobe in his big shit 06 season.

Uh, no. Not even a little.

[FKAri]

As for VC vs MJ leaping/athleticism:

As raw athletes they're similar in athletic power but MJ gets more speed while VC gets more strength out of the equation.

MJ was much more fundamentally sound allowing him to utilize his athleticism better (probably better than any other super athlete in NBA history)

VC:
stronger
similarly great body control in the air
slower off the dribble
much slower laterally
2 foot leaper almost exclusively (making in-game dunks a poorer measure of true vertical max than it already is)

MJ:
- slimmer frame
- quicker off the dribble (as a raw athlete since he had a slimmer frame as well as due to better footwork/handle)
- much much quicker laterally
- great body control in the air but also on his feet (also because of better footwork/handle)

[Mr Feeny]

^ Above, Michael Jordan at 36 (99-00).


Ahh, the absurdity from MJ stans.. Gilbert guncharge Areans probably thought MJ in 98 was 36. Dumbass fruitloop.

Yes, Arenas wouldn't have been able to put up 60 on MJ'S home court matched up against him. He sure did that against prime Kobrick

AGENT ZERO FOR THE WIN