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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
    These ridiculous topics would have at least a little merit if any of you ever mentioned basketball in your reasoning.

    300 words in defense of a point about where a basketball player ranks without mentioning a single basketball skill or anything that happened on a court.

    Usually a good sign the point isnt valid.
    great post as always. I would like to add that the OP is a blatant practicing homosexual

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by onhcetum
    There's 12 guys that I have "for sure" ahead of him. And then, he's bunched up with 10-12 other guys. In my eyes, he still has no rings, so he's in there with the David Robinsons, Charles Barkleys, Patrick Ewings, Reggie Millers, Scottie Pippen, KGs, Drexlers, Paul Pierces, Allen Iversons, Gary Paytons...
    What's your argument for Reggie Miller being ahead of LeBron

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    What's your argument for Reggie Miller being ahead of LeBron
    He doesn't like LeBron. That's his argument

    Just as it is for the other idiots

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    I have him top 50 so far, definitely outside the top 30 or so.

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
    These ridiculous topics would have at least a little merit if any of you ever mentioned basketball in your reasoning.

    300 words in defense of a point about where a basketball player ranks without mentioning a single basketball skill or anything that happened on a court.

    Usually a good sign the point isnt valid.
    From another post...

    I'm sorry but I can't put Lebron any where near the top 15 in the all-time rankings, much less in the conversations with Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Magic, Shaq, and Bird. The "Chosen One" has turned into the "Frozen One" too many times.

    2011 NBA Finals: He robbed Wade of his second final's MVP. No "superstar" in NBA history has ever sabotaged his teams chances like Lebron did. It's not like he had one terrible quarter or a few bad games. He disappeared the entire series. Bosh and Wade both scored more than Lebron.

    2013 NBA Finals: In the closing minutes of Game 6, Lebron had three turnovers and two bricks. If not for Ray Allen's miracle shot, Lebron would have gone down as the biggest goat, not GOAT, in NBA history. Ray Allen saved Lebron's legacy.

    2014 NBA Finals: He cramped up in Game 1. How come he was the only one that cramped up? Did he forget to stretch or drink water? That's his responsibility. Last time I checked, everyone else finished the game fine... even the guys that are a few years away from retirement homes...

    In Game 5, he sat out the remaining 8 or 9 minutes of the game... when Miami was only down 11 points... Heck, Michael Beasley showed that he wanted it more than Lebron. I don't care if you lose or win the series. All of the great ones have lost... (even Jordan got swept), but they go down swinging.

    Leastern Conference: Not to mention Lebron plays in the Leastern Conferences. He's playing the likes of the Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Charlotte in the first round, while teams are playing the Blazers, Warriors, and Grizzlies as first round opponents. Their biggest in-conference rivals have been the Indiana Pretenders, who's offense is to watch Lance or Paul George go iso.

    Let's not forget that Lebron still hasn't won a ring without his superstar friends. Let's not forget that he was trying to recruit Carmelo to join him... How much help does this guy need?
    He was regulated to the third fiddle in 2011, having been outscored by both Bosh and Wade. He's cost his teams two titles, almost three...

    I've given him a pass for 2007 and for every year after 2006, and yet, his stans are calling for yet ANOTHER FINALS pass? I'm sorry, but I'm grading him on the all-time GREATS scale. If you want me to sing his praises, then I guess we both agree he's in the same category as the Mitch Richmonds, Alex Englishs, Vince Carters, and George Gervins. Then, I won't have to be so hard on him.
    Last edited by onhcetum; 08-17-2014 at 11:44 PM.

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Reggie Miller...

    I wonder if the people who cosign bullshit like this are actually stupid enough to believe it or just nod in agreement no matter what point is made against the guy they hate....

    Well I dont wonder. Its fairly obvious. But I like to explain my thought process in a verbose and slightly insulting manner.

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by onhcetum
    There's 12 guys that I have "for sure" ahead of him. And then, he's bunched up with 10-12 other guys. In my eyes, he still has no rings, so he's in there with the David Robinsons, Charles Barkleys, Patrick Ewings, Reggie Millers, Scottie Pippen, KGs, Drexlers, Paul Pierces, Allen Iversons, Gary Paytons...
    Those 10 players have a combined four MVPs....or the same as Lebron has by himself.

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    OP is a blackbelt in homosexuality

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Name 15 better
    1. Godbe Bryant
    2. Kareem
    3. Magic
    4. O'neal
    5. Bird
    6. Wilt
    7. Duncan
    8. Russell
    9. Hakeem Olajuwon
    10. Moses Malone
    11. Oscar Robinson
    12. Kevin Garnett
    13. Scottie Pippen
    14. Julius Erving
    15. Jerry West

    and I can name 29 more .

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    Once I saw Reggie Millers name I mentally scratched you off the list of people to take serious. Doesnt mean you are stupid...but it does mean you are unreasonable. And I dont need a long unreasonable discussion right now. i'll say this...

    History wont agree and there is nothing you can do about it.

    But feel free to ice skate up that hill...

    You arent doing anything wrong exactly. You are wrong...but you arent being a dick or anything so...ill show myself out and let you get whatever enjoyment out of this you get.

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    This

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by GODbe
    1. Godbe Bryant
    2. Kareem
    3. Magic
    4. O'neal
    5. Bird
    6. Wilt
    7. Duncan
    8. Russell
    9. Hakeem Olajuwon
    10. Moses Malone
    11. Oscar Robinson
    12. Kevin Garnett
    13. Scottie Pippen
    14. Julius Erving
    15. Jerry West

    and I can name 29 more .
    Go ahead

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    Default Re: Lebron is not even a top 15 player all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Go ahead
    16. Michael Jordan
    17. Karl Malone
    18. Isaiah Thomas
    19. Charles Barkley
    20. David Robinson
    21. Kevin McHale
    22. Reggie Miller
    23. James Worthy
    24. Dwyane Wade
    25. Bobb Pettit
    26. John Havlicek
    27. Rick Barry
    28. Elvin Hayes
    29. Bob Cousy
    30. Jason Kidd
    31. Carmelo Anthony
    32. Kevin Durant
    33. Allen Iverson
    34. Patrick Ewing
    35. Clyde Drexler
    36. Steve Nash
    37. Sam Jones
    38. Dwight Howard
    39. Chris Mullin
    40. Grant Hill
    41. Paul Pierce
    42. Rajon Rondo
    43. Vince Carter
    44. Pau Gasol

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