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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by Segatti
I feel bad for Kobe. He is the only one who can create his own shot in the Lakers. And even then he's being very efficiently. If you're a fan of basketball you're not criticizing Kobe this season.
False. The way some of these fans describe it, Kobe is out there playing with the same kind of 'talent' Lebron had to suffer through in Cleveland. Dwight, Pau, Nash, and even World Peace are all guys who at one point or another were the focal points of their teams' offense. They can all create their own shot and in Pau and Nash's case, they can create for others. The key is getting them said ball.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by clayton
At this point of his career, it's all about putting as much points as possible. He didn't care about the loss. 38 points and smiling the whole game. Nash picked the wrong team to ring chase.
Kobe doesn't care about winning? You don't think Kobe is pissed that the Lakers are underachieving?
I've seen some dumb stuff on this site but goddamn.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
False. The way some of these fans describe it, Kobe is out there playing with the same kind of 'talent' Lebron had to suffer through in Cleveland. Dwight, Pau, Nash, and even World Peace are all guys who at one point or another were the focal points of their teams' offense. They can all create their own shot and in Pau and Nash's case, they can create for others. The key is getting them said ball.
Um no. The key is utilizing your talent but dantoni is a ****ing tool bag and has gasol standing on the three point line all ****ing game, pisses me off.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by brandonislegend
Um no. The key is utilizing your talent but dantoni is a ****ing tool bag and has gasol standing on the three point line all ****ing game, pisses me off.
Someone on NBA TV said about D'Antoni that he doesn't need to apply his system to his players, but to make a system that allows his players to do what they do best.
Pau should be in the post or high PNR with Nash for a 15 foot jumper. Not spotted up at the three point line like Anderson.
You would think that such a great offensive coach would realize this.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by upside24
Kobe doesn't care about winning? You don't think Kobe is pissed that the Lakers are underachieving?
I've seen some dumb stuff on this site but goddamn.
kobe cares about winning but he doesnt know how to do it. Its pjax who made him a winner.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by knicksman
kobe cares about winning but he doesnt know how to do it. Its pjax who made him a winner.
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
The way some of these fans describe it, Kobe is out there playing with the same kind of 'talent' Lebron had to suffer through in Cleveland.
Suffer?
LeBron has a team custom built for him in Cleveland. The 2010 Cavs team were actually great for playing to his strengths and playing style.
They were probably missing maybe one more player from being a real title lock. Even with that being said, he has a ton of talent around him now, maybe it's not a perfect fit as far as skill sets like in Cleveland, but how many players have had a player of Wade's caliber AND a player of Bosh's caliber at the same time?
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Re: Keep overrating Kobe Bryant
Originally Posted by Ne 1
Suffer?
LeBron has a team custom built for him in Cleveland. The 2010 Cavs team were actually great for playing to his strengths and playing style.
They were probably missing maybe one more player from being a real title lock. Even with that being said, he has a ton of talent around him now, maybe it's not a perfect fit as far as skill sets like in Cleveland, but how many players have had a player of Wade's caliber AND a player of Bosh's caliber at the same time?
Nawww, he never had a consistent shooter, rebounder, finisher, penetrator - or rim blocker - not one year. Lebron always lead the team in assist, points and steals and always his last six years either lead the team in rebounds (twice) or was very close to being the best rebounder, and the last three years he was very close in leading in blocks as well. I'm sure he didn't have an all defensive team player with him either? His best rebounder averaged 8.5 rebounds his last six years there. That's not conducive to winning and that's not the way to construct a team around around any player. Asking for 10 rebounds, 5 assist, 2 block shots, an all defensive teammate, a very good athlete or a consistent shooter isn't asking for much and he never got that. The game is built around quality players and a quality player will get you that. DH alone has proven he can get you 15 rebounds per game and 4 blocks while averaging more ppg than any teammate Lebron has ever had in Cleveland.
In the title run Bosh and Wade were neither healthy or reliable.
Last edited by Pointguard; 01-07-2013 at 02:52 AM.
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