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    Default How much do you value longevity

    In terms of franchise players if you were starting a team?

    Would you pick someone like Karl Malone over Magic Johnson to start a franchise?

    Pierce over someone like McGrady?

    Stockton over Isiah?

    LeBron over Bird? Given that LeBron stays relatively injury free until 35-36.


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    i dunno why anyone would think lebron has longevity over bird


    whos to say lebron won't have a back injury and retire after next year with the same number of seasons played as bird

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    i dunno why anyone would think lebron has longevity over bird


    whos to say lebron won't have a back injury and retire after next year with the same number of seasons played as bird
    he very well could

    assuming he doesn't though....

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Peak is better than longevity even though longevity is not to be taken for granted.


    Would you rather have a star player for 4 seasons? Or the best player in the league for 2?

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    kobe makes the lakers 300 million dollars in proffit on his name alone every year


    an argument could be made that an owner of a franchise would rather draft kobe over jordan just based on the fact that even if you ended up with 5 rings instead of 6. kobe will have made your team more than a billion dollars extra by the time he's retired


    and owners dont care if a guy has more individual accolades. its just about titles and money at the end of the day





    so yes longevity weighs heavily into picking a player

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    For building a franchise, I need longevity. I don't want a Brandon Roy or a Len Bias and get screwed over. If you were talking about like 8yrs playing at a higher level than say 12 years at a slightly lower level(still superstar level), I'd still go with twelve. I just like longevity personally, more stability in the franchise and more time to get the right pieces.

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Peak is better than longevity even though longevity is not to be taken for granted.


    Would you rather have a star player for 4 seasons? Or the best player in the league for 2?


    if it was about peaks when ranking players

    wilt
    shaq
    baylor
    oscar


    would all be ranked ahead of jordan all time



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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Peak is better than longevity even though longevity is not to be taken for granted.


    Would you rather have a star player for 4 seasons? Or the best player in the league for 2?
    the former doesnt qualify as longevity, though.

    a better example, a top 3 player for 2-4 years or a top 10-15 player for 8-10+ years

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    value this much, i do
    hard to keep in shape over a long time, your body is

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    if it was about peaks when ranking players

    wilt
    shaq
    baylor
    oscar


    would all be ranked ahead of jordan all time


    Ngga you are on the fuccing moon, none of those guys had a better peak than MJ.

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Ngga you are on the fuccing moon, none of those guys had a better peak than MJ.

    uerm...ahemmm



    Baylor prime = 40 ppg, 20 rpg, 5 apg

    Wilt prime = 50 ppg, 26 rpg, 2 apg

    oscar prime = 31 ppg, 13 rpg, 11 apg

    shaq prime = 30 ppg, 14 rpg, 4 apg




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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    kobe makes the lakers 300 million dollars in proffit on his name alone every year


    an argument could be made that an owner of a franchise would rather draft kobe over jordan just based on the fact that even if you ended up with 5 rings instead of 6. kobe will have made your team more than a billion dollars extra by the time he's retired


    and owners dont care if a guy has more individual accolades. its just about titles and money at the end of the day





    so yes longevity weighs heavily into picking a player
    Well, how much did Jordan make the bulls in the 90s translated into modern dollars?

    You have a point though, I might pick someone like Blake Griffin (given he stays healthy) over Malone to start my franchise just to put some butts in seats.

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    You know what puts butts in seats? Winning.

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin

    uerm...ahemmm



    Baylor prime = 40 ppg, 20 rpg, 5 apg

    Wilt prime = 50 ppg, 26 rpg, 2 apg

    oscar prime = 31 ppg, 13 rpg, 11 apg

    shaq prime = 30 ppg, 14 rpg, 4 apg
    Those numbers in the 60's need adjusting. Nobody seriously thinks Wilt would average 50 in the moder era. Nobody that is meant to be taken seriously anyway.

    If we include postseason play, Shaq and Jordan have the best argument.

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    Default Re: How much do you value longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyMcAdocious
    You know what puts butts in seats? Winning.
    What about a small market team like the Hawks?

    You don't think Blake Griffin would be able to put butts in Philips Arena?

    I admit my Griffin vs Malone example was bad, but what about Vince Carter vs Pierce?

    Pierce is the better player, but I'd probably take Vince Carter to start my franchise... if that makes sense.

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