Bayless- "Pippen wouldnt be a top 50 player without Jordan"

[Indian guy]

I love this dudes rants on the Heat/Lebron, but he is so wrong about the great Scottie Pippen....

So you love him based on your agenda, eh?

[asdf1990]

Skip is a retard, something he says are okay but others u can clearly tell he is a huge jordan homer and a huge lebron troll.

For example his current top 5 players based on this post season
1) wade
2)dirk
3)kobe
4)melo
5) durant
6) lebron

Really.. he makes wade seem like the second coming of Jodan just so he can degrade lebron. Melo and kobe both got swept. Durant choked just as much as lebron and didn't make the finals.

[andgar923]

I love this dudes rants on the Heat/Lebron, but he is so wrong about the great Scottie Pippen.... #33 took the Bulls to 50+ wins without Jordan.. even better, they didnt even attempt to replace Jordan with some mid-tier player. They took the greatest player of all time off the team, and Scottie still took them deep and almost all the way if not for a once-in-a-lifetime 4 pt play.

What if NY never gets bailed out and Scottie wins a ring?.. Do people look at MJ a little differently?

Scotte - Legend with or without Jordan, though Jordan definetly helped...and vice versa.

I agree with Skip.

Pip without MJ isn't a top 50 and I doubt he's even an all star.

MJ MADE Pip, plain and simple.

Pip would've been a good player, maybe an all star and certainly not a top 50 player.

[DuMa]

there is some truth to this. MJ molded Pippen into the player he was.

[PowerGlove]

and MJ wouldnt be the goat without pippen. It works both ways, stop portraying Pippen as this parasite who just happened to land on Jordan and the bulls.

[Boston C's]

Whos to say Pippen didnt maximize Jordan's potential? It goes both ways brah.

yea because jordan averaging 37 ppg a yr before and winning mvp the same yr pippen came in the league had definitely a lot to do with pippen maximizing jordans potential

[Micku]

He wouldn't have gotten a lot of media attention without MJ, but he is definately a top 50 player. Why wouldn't he be? He was awesome.

[kentatm]

ok, but MJ wouldn't be considered the GOAT without Pippen so I guess it evens out.

[BlackJoker23]

I agree with Skip.

Pip without MJ isn't a top 50 and I doubt he's even an all star.

MJ MADE Pip, plain and simple.

Pip would've been a good player, maybe an all star and certainly not a top 50 player.

based on this post, i can tell mj made you as well.

[Rysio]

based on this post, i can tell mj made you as well.

[Shepseskaf]

there is some truth to this. MJ molded Pippen into the player he was.

This is the key point. MJ pushed Pippen to become the player he would be, and Pippen, in turn, became a major factor in MJ winning championships and gaining GOAT status.

Given Pippen's laid-back upbringing in Arkansas, I doubt he would have become as hyper-competitive as he did, without having MJ as both a teammate and ultimate target.

So, people need to stop arguing the point on how far Pippen led the team in Jordan's absence. That happened after Pippen had been under MJ's tutelage.

[Teanett]

i shake my head at this.

if jordan's tuteledge and influence is so great, why didnt pete myers, brad sellers, mike brown, stacey king, jack haley, jason caffey and kwame brown become top 50 players? or top 100? or top 200?

[wang4three]

that old fat drunk at my local bar says the same all the time and he ain't on tv.

Exactly, his opinion is that equivalent to an old fat drunk. He's a paid troll. An American fatty's dream.

[Teanett]

and scott williams is a bust. had he listened to jordan's wisdom , he would've been the next artis gilmore.

[Nastradamus]

If Granger had Lebron-like handles, deron williams -like first step, Artest-like defense, Wade-like finishing ability and dwight howard-like strength.. then yea, Pippen is just another Danny Granger.



Step your game up, Skyscrub.

Got a little carried away by the end bro. Pippen was a nice finisher, but he wasn't Lebron/Wade/Amare or anything elite. That is not an insult to his finishing. Strong for a SF, but he wasn't as strong as Paul Pierce, let alone Dwight Howard.

Again, not a rip on Pippen though. His strength was his versatility. The guys you listed are all 10s in that one particular area. Pippen was a 10 on D and an 8 in all those other categories or something along those lines. Good ball handler for a SF, but not as skilled as people make him out to be these days. Poor shooter, not a great A/TO ratio for a primary ball handler.

Basically, he's the KG of SFs. Elite player, but probably in the sub group of elite players.