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Old 11-23-2008, 04:29 PM   #1
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Default are cavs really more talented than heat?

Mario charmers Mo williams
marion west
beasley wallace
haslem Big Z even


looking at this roster it seems to me that heat have more talent. The cavs have more experience but i believe heat have a much better basketball roster.

beasley is a rookie but still playing very solid and shawn marion solid double double every night. Haslem is a great role player. If had to pick the cavs or heat without lebron or wade it would be the heat.

I think the heat have more talent than people give them credit for.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:33 PM   #2
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More talented NO!

Better YES !
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:34 PM   #3
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yes, Cavs are MUCH better than the Heat...esp at the defensive end.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:36 PM   #4
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:37 PM   #5
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The Cavs are clearly a better team than the Heat.

Mario Chalmers (rookie) vs. Mo Williams? Not even close.
Big Z (true post player) vs. Haslem (tweener/hustle)?
Beasley vs. Wallace? Depends what you're looking for.
Marion vs. whoever? Marion is better of course.

Anyway, basketball isn't played on paper. The Cavs have a team unit this year, the Heat do not.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:38 PM   #6
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yes, Cavs are MUCH better than the Heat...esp at the defensive end.
Miami is actually surprisingly decent at D, the cavs just have better players and have much more chemistry.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:39 PM   #7
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yes, Cavs are MUCH better than the Heat...esp at the defensive end.

explain why

With lebron and and wade out, you really would bet on the cavs.

cavs are obv better at D but beasley is the only starter with defensive problems on that team.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:41 PM   #8
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explain why

With lebron and and wade out, you really would bet on the cavs.

cavs are obv better at D but beasley is the only starter with defensive problems on that team.

Of course. The Cavs are still a team with LeBron out, not a very good one, but still a team. The Heat can't say the same.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:43 PM   #9
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The Cavs aren't more talented than the Heat, but talent isn't everything. When a team has holes at the 2 most important positions on the court (PG and Center) it makes it hard to win ball games. Cleveland's players mesh together better than the players in Miami.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #10
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The Cavs aren't more talented than the Heat, but talent isn't everything. When a team has holes at the 2 most important positions on the court (PG and Center) it makes it hard to win ball games. Cleveland's players mesh together better than the players in Miami.
the miami heat is more talented than the cavs but talent isnt everything
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:06 PM   #11
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Of course. The Cavs are still a team with LeBron out, not a very good one, but still a team. The Heat can't say the same.


I tend to disagree because the cavs have no one who can get a shot off on their own. While the heat have 2 players that get their shot off on their own in marion and beasley. The cavs have great role players who play defense and hit open shots but as far creating shots for others and their won they can not do. I believe the heat have more talent than the cavs and are better than the cavs without both of their superstars. Heat do have problems at the center but postion but as far as talent goes they have more than cavs.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:09 PM   #12
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lebron has more talent than the whole team
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:15 PM   #13
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One tracked minds in this thread.

Miami's bench sucks.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:18 PM   #14
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I tend to disagree because the cavs have no one who can get a shot off on their own. While the heat have 2 players that get their shot off on their own in marion and beasley. The cavs have great role players who play defense and hit open shots but as far creating shots for others and their won they can not do. I believe the heat have more talent than the cavs and are better than the cavs without both of their superstars. Heat do have problems at the center but postion but as far as talent goes they have more than cavs.
we actually have a hand full of underrated guys that can create their own shot. Mo Williams can. Delonte can sometimes, as well as Boobie with his floater. Varejao is developing a b2b game, and Z and Wally can score in the post as well. Like i said the heat may have more talent but the cavs are still the better team with or without the superstars on each team.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:20 PM   #15
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we actually have a hand full of underrated guys that can create their own shot. Mo Williams can. Delonte can sometimes, as well as Boobie with his floater. Varejao is developing a b2b game, and Z and Wally can score in the post as well. Like i said the heat may have more talent but the cavs are still the better team with or without the superstars on each team.

the only reason why it seems there getting better is because lebron is getting tripled teamed and they got wide wide open shots
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