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dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
A while back there was a thread made that was entitled wade vs pippen. And it was made to get an idea on who believed was the better of the 2. Some people believed pippen was better, while others believed wade was better and in their opinion, "its not even close". I stated that they were about equal when it comes to court contributions. And I stated that pippen had to share time with jordan which killed his stats. And more accolades. Although he wouldn't have won like he did.
My question is, after watching the heat these last 15 games how do you feel now? Who is better of around? Who would you feel more comfortable building a team around? Or even more who would it be easier to build a team around?
Im curious to see if anybodys mind has changed.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pippen
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Wade is perfect as #1 and good as #2.
Pippen was great as #1 and perfect as #2.
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Serious playground baller
Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
lol @ peoples mind changing from 15 games
when we have seen 7 years of what he can do
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
wow, a new and refreshing topic... well done.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Jesus, get over it. Pippen isn't on Wade's level. Never has been, never will be. Pippen "fit" better with a superstar like Jordan than Wade does with Lebron (and vic versa) because Pippen OF NECESSITY had to develop his all-around game - he had to do so because he wasn't anywhere near as good as Jordan and thus wouldn't be the alpha dog, and also because his own limitations forced him to become a cerebral player who played well within a system (the triangle). It also helped that Jordan was a vastly superior off the ball player as compared to Lebron/Wade. If he wasn't, despite Pippen's all-around game and unselfishnesss, you might have seen similar issues manifest since Pippen probably had the ball in his hands more than Jordan post-'91.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Jesus, get over it. Pippen isn't on Wade's level. Never has been, never will be. Pippen "fit" better with a superstar like Jordan than Wade does with Lebron (and vic versa) because Pippen OF NECESSITY had to develop his all-around game - he had to do so because he wasn't anywhere near as good as Jordan and thus wouldn't be the alpha dog, and also because his own limitations forced him to become a cerebral player who played well within a system (the triangle). It also helped that Jordan was a vastly superior off the ball player as compared to Lebron/Wade. If he wasn't, despite Pippen's all-around game and unselfishnesss, you might have seen similar issues manifest since Pippen probably had the ball in his hands more than Jordan post-'91.
Good post.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by SoCalMike
wow, a new and refreshing topic... well done.
Can anything be new and fresh for you after almost 27 thousand posts?
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Death Before Dishonor
Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Wade in 2006 alone >>>> Pippen
and i'm a Bulls fan
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by iamgine
Wade is perfect as #1 and good as #2.
Pippen was great as #1 and perfect as #2.
Nah...he's not a perfect #1. Guy has been playing horrible since last season. Him and Durant are the two most overrated players right now.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Jesus, get over it. Pippen isn't on Wade's level. Never has been, never will be. Pippen "fit" better with a superstar like Jordan than Wade does with Lebron (and vic versa) because Pippen OF NECESSITY had to develop his all-around game - he had to do so because he wasn't anywhere near as good as Jordan and thus wouldn't be the alpha dog, and also because his own limitations forced him to become a cerebral player who played well within a system (the triangle). It also helped that Jordan was a vastly superior off the ball player as compared to Lebron/Wade. If he wasn't, despite Pippen's all-around game and unselfishnesss, you might have seen similar issues manifest since Pippen probably had the ball in his hands more than Jordan post-'91.
Forget jordan. Im talking wades capabilities vs pippens. And you do exactly what you normally do and that run to the offensive side of the ball. The funny thing is that your belief is wrong. You feel that whoever is the better scorer is the better player. Well explain miami this year. They have 3 great scorers and are battling to stay above .500. Why don't you admit that your theory is wrong. Like the assinine 5 carmellos vs 5 rodmans nonsense.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
Wade in 2006 alone >>>> Pippen
and i'm a Bulls fan
One season doesn't a make a career. Your gonna honestly tell me that what wade did in one great playoff run trumps what pippen did in 6? Come on.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
2009 Wade > Any version of Pippen. Get over it.
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by MrJohnWall
lol @ peoples mind changing from 15 games
when we have seen 7 years of what he can do
Ok so what if nothing changes and they finish with about 50 wins?
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Re: dwayne wade vs scottie pippen part II
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
Forget jordan. Im talking wades capabilities vs pippens. And you do exactly what you normally do and that run to the offensive side of the ball. The funny thing is that your belief is wrong. You feel that whoever is the better scorer is the better player. Well explain miami this year. They have 3 great scorers and are battling to stay above .500. Why don't you admit that your theory is wrong. Like the assinine 5 carmellos vs 5 rodmans nonsense.
Because it's the COMPLEMENTARITY of their skill-sets that's the issue here. Pippen and Jordan's scoring games were complementary largely because Jordan was a masterful off the ball player, and because Pippen's own limitations as an offensive player forced him to be more of an opportunistic scorer who was dependent on the system than a dominant one-on-one scorer. Wade/Lebron have neither of these characteristics/limitations. They've never learned to play off the ball, and they've never been forced to buy into a system-based offense because of their overwhelming talent.
5 Melos would rape 5 Rodmans in a game. Get real. By a score of like 90-65 if that.
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