ISH's official ranking of the 5 greatest centers of all time

[SouBeachTalents]

Just rank the 5 following from 1-5: Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, & Shaq. They'll get different points for each position they're ranked at, and we'll tally up the points and rank them based on the voting results

It's very simple, here's how many points they get for each position they're ranked at
1. 5 points
2. 4 points
3. 3 points
4. 2 points
5. 1 point

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Standings so far

Kareem: 198
Russell: 146
Wilt: 146
Shaq: 127
Hakeem: 77

[Smook A.]

1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Why am I limited to those 5?

[oarabbus]

1. Russell
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

[r0drig0lac]

1. Russell
2. Wilt
3. KAJ
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

[ArbitraryWater]

1. Kareem
2. Wilt
3. Shaq

Already so split on 2/3, but I really can't decide between Hakeem and Russell, for now...

But give those men right there their points, if we actually count this.

Kareem should be undisputed 1.

Why am I limited to those 5?

Because nobody else makes sense... Unless you consider Duncan a C.

[Akrazotile]

1. Russell
2. Kareem
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

If Russell is the top C of all time is Rodman the top PF?

[LBJ4MVP23]

All time lists should be a combination of team achievement given the relevant talent of your team (cant expect to win titles with no help, but if youre missing playoffs with ok help thats an issue); individual achievements (mvps, DPOY, scoring leader, boards leader, etc.); and individual ability (how good are you compared to another guy plain and simple)

I think Wilt was head and shoulders above Russell in terms of ability, but he doesnt have the team achievements. KAJ is absolutely unbelievable, but the guy wasnt a real winner in his true prime. So it all has to be factored in

1. KAJ
2. Wilt
3. Russell
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

[T_L_P]

1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem
5. Wilt

[Done_And_Done]

Kaj
Wilt
Russ
Shaq
Hakeem

Prime Shaq eats them all imo though

[oarabbus]

If Russell is the top C of all time is Rodman the top PF?

He's didn't have the highest peak, but he is the greatest C. Greatness IMO has much to do with accolades and achievements.

Russell has 11 rings and won 8 straight. That level of winning is absurd and unparalleled in sports history at least among major sports. That is "greatness". Elevated his game in the playoffs and won when it matters, and outplayed the clearly more talented Wilt amongst other Cs.

[Deuce Bigalow]

1. Mikan
2. Russell
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Wilt

6. Hakeem

[Cold soul]

1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem

[Akrazotile]

He's didn't have the highest peak, but he is the greatest C. Greatness IMO has much to do with accolades and achievements.

Russell has 11 rings and won 8 straight. That level of winning is absurd and unparalleled in sports history at least among major sports. That is "greatness". Elevated his game in the playoffs and won when it matters, and outplayed the clearly more talented Wilt amongst other Cs.

First of all Im not trying to downgrade Russell, but simply point out inconsistencies in peoples logic. There were only 8 or 9 teams when Russell played! Also he was frequently not even first team all-nba at center.

Russell was a fantastic defensive player on a team loaded with offensive, HOF talent, and together that combination won numerous titles. Giving disproportionate credit for that to Russell because he was on the team for 11 of them is like saying Horry wouldnt have been on seven title teams without being a HOF caliber player. Russell was limited in some aspects and had the good fortune, much like Kobe, to play his career for a top flight organization. It doesnt seem like you are taking any of that into account. "11 rings" is no better an argument for Russell than "7 rings" is for Horry. And again, Russell began each season with a 1/8 chance of winning the championship. Subsequent players started with a 1/15 chance, a 1/22 chance and eventually a 1/30 chance. Its much easier to be "GOATWINNER" when you have 300% better odds of winning a chip before even playing a minute.

[outbreak]

1. Russell
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem