Does anyone in here actually think MJ isn't the GOAT?

[SpecialQue]

This question seems to pop up every few months. Then everyone decides that Kareem has the best case but they still prefer MJ because he's the more recent player.

[Beastmode88]

Jordan fan here, but no I don't think he's the clear cut GOAT

so whos ur top 10 since you're clearly an objective jordan stan.

[Rocketswin2013]

I really shouldn't have expected this forum to receive this well. ****ing idiots.

[dubeta]

so whos ur top 10 since you're clearly an objective jordan stan.

1. Kareem

2. Magic

3. Russell

4. LeBron

5. Jordan

6. Shaq

7. Bird

8. Wilt

9. Hakeem

10. Duncan


#donthate

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Full Retard

My G dont act like u aint say Terry Porters impact in 91 wasnt far off MJ

[Sportal]

I honestly don't know a lot about KAJ, but if the thing that someone posted is true.. That when the Big O left, the went from Finals to losing record, then is KAJ really that good? They also said he did nothing in LA till Magic come around?

I mean, I don't know this stuff, but it'd be a knock against any "GOAT" tag.

[Rocketswin2013]

Which conclusion is retarded? LeBron, Shaq or Wilts. If you say something like all 3, then it's not worth talking about. May have to pull a 3ball.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Which conclusion is retarded? LeBron, Shaq or Wilts. If you say something like all 3, then it's not worth talking about. May have to pull a 3ball.

I took Shaqs name out for a reason.................Peak Shaq is the GOAT but MJ is the only one on his level, lmfao at Wilt and Bran

[outbreak]

1. Kareem

2. Magic

3. Russell

4. LeBron

5. Jordan

6. Shaq

7. Bird

8. Wilt

9. Hakeem

10. Duncan


#donthate

[Suguru101]

I honestly don't know a lot about KAJ, but if the thing that someone posted is true.. That when the Big O left, the went from Finals to losing record, then is KAJ really that good? They also said he did nothing in LA till Magic come around?

I mean, I don't know this stuff, but it'd be a knock against any "GOAT" tag.

Jordan didn't do anything without Pippen. It's just tough to win by yourself.

[G0ATbe]

Jordan isn't even top 10, and there's no shame in that. He was still a great player. I'm just amazed at what a great job the media has done to fuel his legend.

[ClipperRevival]

MJ has a CASE as the GOAT, as do Wilt, Magic, Kareem, and Russell.

BTW, Kareem actually has LESS of a case than Chamberlain.

I am sorry but Wilt has no case. Peak dominance does not gurantee you GOAT status. He didn't win when it mattered. I know you are the biggest Wilt fan and I think he gets underrated by the younger gen but he has no case over MJ or KAJ when you look at the entire body of work.

Magic has no case. Even ask Magic himself, he will tell you MJ was greater. Also, he was not very good on D.

Same with Russell. He couldn't dominate you offensively. I am sorry but if you want to be GOAT, especially as a big, you need to be dominant on both ends. Greatest winner without taking into context? Of course. But GOAT? Lol.

[ClipperRevival]

KAJ is the GOAT IMO. But hes the only one with the consistent body of work over a long period, domination at every level (HS, college, NBA) and strong prime/peak/playoff performances to be argued against MJ

And I have no problem with that. That's why most objective bball fans have MJ/KAJ as 1/2 either way. When you look at the entire body of work, you can only conclude with these two.

[Rocketswin2013]

I took Shaqs name out for a reason.................Peak Shaq is the GOAT but MJ is the only one on his level, lmfao at Wilt and Bran

Misconception. Wilt is literally impossible to argue for on this forum. People will call KAJ andRussell GOATs or top 3 and leave him out of the top 10......


But people definitely sleep on peak(IMO 2009) LeBron around here. This place is really homogenous on some things so I shouldn't be too surprised.

[Suguru101]

Misconception. Wilt is literally impossible to argue for on this forum. People will call KAJ andRussell GOATs or top 3 and leave him out of the top 10......


But people definitely sleep on peak(IMO 2009) LeBron around here. This place is really homogenous on some things so I shouldn't be too surprised.

Why do you think 2009 LeBron is better than 2012 LeBron (post game, better defense/maturity)?