How many seasons did LeBron have a 2nd option better than current Klay?

[Dray n Klay]

Remember, Klay is the 4th option on the Warriors.


How many seasons in LeBrons career did he have a 2nd option as good as the Warriors 4th option?

[RealSkipBayless]

Dray n Klay on fire today.

[3ball]

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Regular Season

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


... Klay sucks

Hornacek averaged 20 ppg and 7 apg at his peak, and averaged 5.8 apg for an 8 year period (88-94').. so he was multidimensional,cwhile Klay is just a robotic 3-point shooter that is lucky to have the best teammates and system for his skills

[3ball]

Klay averages 4-5 points below his regular season average in every Finals

It's a dirty little secret that Klay is a shit Finals player

He isn't better than Hornacek (see stats in previous post), let alone Wade, Kyrie, Love, or Bosh - these guys' stats blow Klay away - not remotely close

[Velocirap31]

Kyrie is the only one that comes close, but Lebron would do major damage with a shooter like Klay.

[FKAri]

Klay averages 4-5 points below his regular season average in every Finals

It's a dirty little secret that Klay is a shit Finals player

He isn't better than Hornacek (see stats in previous post), let alone Wade, Kyrie, Love, or Bosh - these guys' stats blow Klay away - not remotely close

Hornacek played in the shit 90s. Ofcourse he's better than Hornacek.

[3ball]

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[COLOR="Red"]These are among the best guys Lebron ever faced
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[COLOR="Purple"]1) SHAQ[/COLOR]

Top Lebron moments:

2004-2006 were the only years of Lebron's career where Shaq had some prime left - during those years, Lebron finished behind Shaq in MVP voting (2004 and 2005), and lost the conference to him (2005 and 2006).. Lebron never dunked on him.

Top Jordan moments:

Jordan won MVP over prime Shaq in 1996 and 1998 and swept Shaq in 1996 ECF.. He also dunked on him, shown here.

[COLOR="yellow"]2. KOBE:[/COLOR]

Top Lebron moments:

- Lebron watched Kobe win more championships during the time that both were in their prime, and also watched Kobe save the team in the 2008 Olympics.

- He missed the much-anticipated, Kobe/Lebron matchup in 2009 and 2010 Finals, because his top-seeded team underachieved by losing to lower seeds in earlier rounds.

Top Jordan moments:

- MJ dunked on Kobe in their first ever possession vs. each other, shown here

- MJ showed his protege how it's done by hitting the game-winner in the first game of the 1997 Finals, after Kobe had airballed 4 straight game-winner attempts against the same team earlier in the playoffs.

- MJ passed the torch to his protoge in the 1998 all-star game by scoring on him at will (5 times in head-to-head possessions, shown here).

3. DUNCAN

Top Lebron moments:

- Lebron missed the infamous game-tying 3-pointer and needed Ray Allen to save him

Top Jordan moments:

- Jordan MADE his game-tying 3-pointer from the exact same spot during his first meeting with Duncan/Popovich in 1998 (the shot is shown here)... Then he dominated the OT, including 2 dunks over Duncan, shown here..

Later in that 1998 season, Jordan won the Finals against the team (Jazz) that destroyed Duncan's Spurs in WCF 2nd Round (Duncan/Robinson/Popovich's Spurs won 56 games in RS).

[COLOR="green"]4. GARNETT:[/COLOR]

Top Lebron moments:

- Lebron got his shit pushed in during 2008 and 2010 ECSF

Top Jordan moments:

- Jordan schooled Garnett in the 1998 all-star game (shown here) and during the regular season (shown here, here and here).

- The only time where MJ and Garnett were matched up defensively for an entire game was during a 2002 contest - both were matched up at SF, and 38-year old Jordan scored 35 on Garnett in every way imagineable, including various blow-by dunks and layups, shown here.

[COLOR="Indigo"]5. SHAWN MARION:[/COLOR]

Top Lebron moments:

- Lebron got locked down by OLD Shawn Marion during the 2011 Finals, which was one of the greatest chokes ever by a star in the Finals.

Top Jordan moments:

- 38-year old Jordan hit the game-winner in PRIME Shawn Marion's face during a contest in 2002 (shown here), and then destroyed him for 41 points in another contest (shown here).

[COLOR="DarkRed"]6. 2003-2004 seasons[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN 2003[/COLOR]: 19.3 PER.. 20.0 ppg.. 44.5 fg
[COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON 2004[/COLOR]: 18.3 PER.. 20.9 ppg.. 41.7 fg

[3ball]

Hornacek played in the shit 90s. Ofcourse he's better than Hornacek.

Except MJ and Lebron played against a lot of the same players and MJ played better against the best guys lebron faced (Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett)

See the previous post above for documented details...

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Regular Season

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


... Klay sucks

Hornacek averaged 20 ppg and 7 apg at his peak, and averaged 5.8 apg for an 8 year period (88-94').. so he was multidimensional,cwhile Klay is just a robotic 3-point shooter that is lucky to have the best teammates and system for his skills

Damn.

[SpaceJam2]

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Regular Season

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg


... Klay sucks

Hornacek averaged 20 ppg and 7 apg at his peak, and averaged 5.8 apg for an 8 year period (88-94').. so he was multidimensional,cwhile Klay is just a robotic 3-point shooter that is lucky to have the best teammates and system for his skills

Worst performers in NBA HISTORY among second options in the Finals

#1. HORNACEK, 1998, 10.7 ppg

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How many seasons did LeBron have a 2nd option better than current Klay?

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[3ball]

Worst performers in NBA HISTORY among second options in the Finals

#1. HORNACEK, 1998, 10.7 ppg

No one is going for that crap - everyone knows Stockton was the 2nd option and HOF top 20 player

And everyone knows that Stockton and Hornacek destroyed 3 super-athletic, all-star guards in the 1998 WCF (Kobe, Eddie Jones, Van Exel...... plus Shaq)

[NBASTATMAN]

Except MJ and Lebron played against a lot of the same players and MJ played better against the best guys lebron faced (Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett)

See the previous post above for documented details...

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[And1AllDay]

Worst performers in NBA HISTORY among second options in the Finals

#1. HORNACEK, 1998, 10.7 ppg

Devastation

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