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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Quote Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
    yeah.
    durant is a pencil. Chris Paul isn't some huge magic johnson dude. anthony isn't an athletic freak, he's extremely skilled. same with pierce. I mean sure these guys are very athletic. but within their own domain of NBA they aren't top of that list and never were.
    Dr. J was absolutely insanely athletic but Larry Bird destroyed him 500 ways from Sunday and it was like... every Sunday.

    Yes those may be some kinds of requirements all right; but then why Kevin Love or Tim Duncan? Why those guys I mentioned above? Durant is sleek on a court. He's like a gazelle. He's completely unstoppable....... but would he be all that playing in the whistle-free era of Shaq? I'm extremely skeptical KD could drive at all on the early 2000 Lakers.

    There's something much more subtle than "african american" or "athletic" going on in basketball.

    I'm afraid people who stereotype the greatest game in the world with such simple, facile concepts as those are not ever going to get it.
    Larry Bird "destroyed" Doc? Let's be a little more accurate here.

    http://hoops-nation.com/community/to...to-head-stats/

    Here's a head to head compilation of every game they ever played against each other.

    "Overall Career H2H Numbers



    Regular Season



    Erving: 22.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 3.9 apg on 49.7 %FG/75.5 %FT/54.2 %TS

    Bird: 23.8 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 6.0 apg on 46.9 %FG/84.5 %FT/52.1 %TS


    Playoffs



    Erving: 19.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 4.1 apg on 43.5 %FG/79.6 %FT/50.2 %TS

    Bird: 22.1 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 5.9 apg on 44.3 %FG/85.1 %FT/49.9 %TS



    Looking at the numbers Erving often got the better of Bird while he was still in his prime. Even beyond that from 82-83 to 86-87 an aging Erving was able to play peak Bird surprisingly close. "

    Don't forget these numbers INCLUDES years when Doc was aging and was basically a shell of his former self.

    Notice Doc's early advantage vs. Bird when he usually outscored him and played an almost equally good overall game. And these were all in the NBA when Doc was just "near prime".

    Imagine what ABA doc would do?
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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Australia loses all its players to the usa. Instead of representing aus they do what Irving does and give up Australian passport to represent the us for a gold.

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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Quote Originally Posted by swagga
    tbh athleticism in the american meaning (jump high, be fast, be strong) is extremely overrated in basketball. Besides size the truely important physical aspects in basketball are length, mobility and lateral quickness.

    For every freak athlete superstar like kobe,lebron,shaq,jordan, dr j or wilt there is a duncan, bird, magic, nowitzki, stockton or older kareem.
    For every freak athlete role player like tony allen or a. bradley there is a bowen or a battier.

    agreed

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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23
    USA have the best basketball players in the world. But you have teams like the Philippines and Senegal making some huge improvements in the last few years.
    people in america especially African Americans have great passion for basketball, aside from america the Philippines also have this obsession with the sport though people from the Phil. are short and less athletic, now these teams in Europe doesn't really have this great passion for basketball most of them would rather play football

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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Quote Originally Posted by thugginnuggin
    Australia loses all its players to the usa. Instead of representing aus they do what Irving does and give up Australian passport to represent the us for a gold.
    Well At least we can say we have th MVP of the world born here.

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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hittin_Shots
    Well At least we can say we have th MVP of the world born here.


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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    its because USA is like a continent its large as ****. compared to small countries(slovenia,lithuania,serbia)

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    Default Re: why do you think the rest of the world isn't getting better at basketball?

    USA vs European all stars would be an interesting game between two comparable talent pools.

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