#apples2oranges

[MJ(Mean John)]

Hate it or love it, KB has a point.

If mike came in the league out of HS and was playing with the most dominant force ever and played in Phil's system,

And

Kobe came in after playing college ball and had great players and a great system (similar to 09/10) and his whole career he played with someone of SP level along with a great supporting cast

It would be different. Nobody is saying kobe would be better or anything. I'm not saying that, simply saying that it would be different.

Let's be real, an 18 yr out of HS would be shaqs #2 option too.
Look at Kobe's numbers on those 3 peats. Compare them to the numbers he put them as a #1 option. Imagine if M was sharing the ball with shaq.


So he has a point. In terms of careers, apples and oranges.

You don't know if playing with shaq made a positive, negative, or neutral impact on Kobe's career/talent and to what extent the same way we don't know what playing in M's situation would have done for Kb

[LongLiveTheKing]

Maybe you were born in 01 or 02 so you probably don't know about the playoff series verses the Spurs those years.

Shaq was still the best player in all 3 championships.

[avonbarksdale]

Hate it or love it, KB has a point.

If mike came in the league out of HS and was playing with the most dominant force ever and played in Phil's system,

And

Kobe came in after playing college ball and had great players and a great system (similar to 09/10) and his whole career he played with someone of SP level along with a great supporting cast

It wouldn't be different. Nobody is saying kobe would be better or anything. I'm not saying that, simply saying that it would be different.

Let's be real, an 18 yr out of HS would be shaqs #2 option too.
Look at Kobe's numbers on those 3 peats. Compare them to the numbers he put them as a #1 option. Imagine if M was sharing the ball with shaq.


So he has a point. In terms of careers, apples and oranges.

You don't know if playing with shaq made a positive, negative, or neutral impact on Kobe's career/talent and to what extent the same way we don't know what playing in M's situation would have done for Kb

yes very well said

[Killbot]

Hate it or love it, KB has a point.

If mike came in the league out of HS and was playing with the most dominant force ever and played in Phil's system,

And

Kobe came in after playing college ball and had great players and a great system (similar to 09/10) and his whole career he played with someone of SP level along with a great supporting cast

It wouldn't be different. Nobody is saying kobe would be better or anything. I'm not saying that, simply saying that it would be different.

Let's be real, an 18 yr out of HS would be shaqs #2 option too.
Look at Kobe's numbers on those 3 peats. Compare them to the numbers he put them as a #1 option. Imagine if M was sharing the ball with shaq.


So he has a point. In terms of careers, apples and oranges.

You don't know if playing with shaq made a positive, negative, or neutral impact on Kobe's career/talent and to what extent the same way we don't know what playing in M's situation would have done for Kb

Then it gets to the point of which players can we compare? No one?

[NumberSix]

Yes, because being carried to those 3 championships severely damaged Kobe's legacy.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Shaq was still the best players in all 3 championships.

That doesn't mean he was carried. Kobe was the best player in two very important series vs the Spurs.

[DonDadda59]

Yes, because being carried to those 3 championships severely damaged Kobe's legacy.

UngratefulBe
IsaiahThomasLookinAssNigguhWithoutShaqBe
2rangzBe

[chosen_wun]

Shaq is the reason why Kobetards can say "5 ringz!!!" and make moronic Jordan comparisons.

Kobe and his fanbase are ungrateful SOB's.

[LongLiveTheKing]

That doesn't mean he was carried. Kobe was the best player in two very important series vs the Spurs.

Shaq was the best in the most important series: The Finals.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Then it gets to the point of which players can we compare? No one?

How many times do you run into a prime shaq?

[NumberSix]

That doesn't mean he was carried. Kobe was the best player in two very important series vs the Spurs.

How do you figure?

[AlphaWolf24]

Shaq is the reason why Kobetards can say "5 ringz!!!" and make moronic Jordan comparisons.

Kobe and his fanbase are ungrateful SOB's.

what ..Kobe fueled the comeback that started the 3 peat....

kobe dominated the Playoffs in 01' and 02' along with Shaq....



so many jimmies...so many rustled

[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe was the best in the most important series: The WCFinals.

fixed

EC sucked azz in the early 2000's...unless you think Smits Pacers ,Ai's sixers and Kidds nets were better then Pippens Blazers ,Duncan's Spurs, SAC Kings and KG's Wolves

[jzek]

That may be but facts are still facts:

Jordan = 6 rings on 6 finals appearances
Kobe = 5 rings on 7 finals appearances

Jordan = 6 FMVP on 6 finals appearances
Kobe = 2 FMVP on 7 finals appearances

No apples to oranges there... just pure facts.

[maybeshewill13]

That may be but facts are still facts:

Jordan = 6 rings on 6 finals appearances
Kobe = 5 rings on 7 finals appearances

Jordan = 6 FMVP on 6 finals appearances
Kobe = 2 FMVP on 7 finals appearances

No apples to oranges there... just pure facts.

how dare people mention KoMe's name in the same sentence as the great MJ.