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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Yes, career-wise (and putting NBA career over international career), Nowitzki has to be at #1. Even talent-wise, I'd only put Sabonis in the same category, and we know that Sabonis didn't play up to his full potential.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Hell yes.

    The greatest by a wide margin. Tony has nothing on Dirk...

    He is one of the greatest shooters, competitors, and overall warriors to ever grace the game.

    And @ Showtime...If Dirk had a strong low post center at any point in his career I guarantee he would have had a very good chance to win a championship or two.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Quote Originally Posted by DULLAH
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    for your information, Bateer is Chinese(Inner-Mongolian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullit
    Would be nice to write something about your '10 thing'.
    I would like to discuss them with you.
    In no particular order:

    Passing
    Ball handling
    Court Vision
    Basketball IQ
    1-on-1 defense
    Tenacity
    Work ethic
    Three-point shooting
    Ambidexterity
    Ability to perform under pressure

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    Tony Parker, first european player to win FINALS MVP > Regular season MVP!!


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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    [quote=Hammertime]In no particular order:

    Passing
    Ball handling
    Court Vision

    Basketball IQ
    1-on-1 defense
    Tenacity
    Work ethic

    Three-point shooting
    Ambidexterity
    Ability to perform under pressure[
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    Dirk is a power forward. Why are you comparing aspects of guards?

    Also the bolded is what Dirk has the edge in...

    How on earth can you say he was better under pressure than Dirk when he had only one good playoff run?

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    [QUOTE=Godfather]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertime
    In no particular order:

    Passing
    Ball handling
    Court Vision

    Basketball IQ
    1-on-1 defense
    Tenacity
    Work ethic

    Three-point shooting
    Ambidexterity
    Ability to perform under pressure[
    /quote]

    Dirk is a power forward. Why are you comparing aspects of guards?

    Also the bolded is what Dirk has the edge in...

    How on earth can you say he was better under pressure than Dirk when he had only one good playoff run?
    Newsflash, there is basketball outside the NBA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lqi4rd6y38
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkXkZZsPGw

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    [quote=Hammertime]
    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather
    Newsflash, Drazen was in his prime in the NBA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather

    Newsflash, Drazen was in his prime in the NBA...
    Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

    Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertime
    In no particular order:

    Passing
    Ball handling
    Court Vision
    Basketball IQ
    1-on-1 defense
    Tenacity
    Work ethic
    Three-point shooting
    Ambidexterity
    Ability to perform under pressure
    That's your list? Funny, really funny.

    Work ethic? Do you anything know about Dirk's work ethic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertime
    Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

    Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?
    Amar'e gets more blocks than Dirk, but would you say he is the better defender?

    Defense isn't soley about blocking shots, it is a wonder that you do not understand that.

    Shooting the basketball scores points...I am amazed that you don't understand that.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertime
    Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

    Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?
    Can you tell me why Petrovic was a starter only in two of his four NBA years? No all star appearances?

    A block a game isn't bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullit
    Can you tell me why Petrovic was a starter only in two of his 5 NBA years? No all star appearances?

    A block a game isn't bad.
    Drazen played 4 years in the NBA, not 5. He did not start in Portland because they had Clyde.

    Again, there is basketball outside of the NBA. The title of the thread isn't "Dirk Nowitzki, the greatest NBA career by a European player?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather
    Shooting the basketball scores points...I am amazed that you don't understand that.
    By that logic, Marbury was a better player than John Stockton.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbullit
    Can you tell me why Petrovic was a starter only in two of his four NBA years? No all star appearances?

    A block a game isn't bad.
    And how can he talk about blocks when Carlos Boozer gets .2 a game and Okur can't even get one at 7 foot.

    ^^^

    Hell no. Dirk isn't a point guard smart one. He is supposed to rebound and score points. He rebounds well and is one of the top scorers in the nation.

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