Why Is Manu Ginobili So Underrated Presently & All Time?

[Mr. Jabbar]

So much fail in this thread...






















Are you ****ing kidding me? You guys call yourselves basketball fans? You all should be slapped.

[SCdac]

you could easily argue the bolded because the way ray was going that game he could have easily finished with 25-30 points which would bring up his scoring average greatly and get more rebounds and assists along with that... so yes it does essentially make manus stats closer to rays when you do this... and if manu has gone up against great defenses how come he only averages 14/4/4 and how come he doensnt get more minutes... its not like a washed up brent barry should be taking his min

Umm, because he plays for the Spurs, which emphasizes sharing the ball and team depth...

Barry was a solid player who was #2 in three point shooting percentage in the 04 season, hardly "washed up" or a bad player. Barry played 4 more seasons in the league after this...

after that Sonics series, against the Suns and Pistons Manu averaged:

Manu - 36.4 MPG
Barry - 26 MPG
Brown - 0.0 MPG

Manu - 36.0 MPG
Barry - 20 MPG
Brown - 5.8 MPG

After the '05 season, Spurs added Michael Finley who was still a formidable player, great shooter, and can throw down big dunks.

In the 2006 playoffs, against the Kings and Mavs Ginobili averaged:

Manu - 30.7 MPG (game 1 was a blowout, no starters played more than 30 min)
Finley - 25.03 MPG
Barry - 23.3 MPG

Manu - 34.7 MPG
Finley - 37.1 MPG (Spurs went small-ball in the series, pushed Finley to SF & PF)
Barry - 23.0 MPG

When you have a deep backcourt, as the coach it's in your best interest to play all of the guards and get the most out of your roster, but no doubt Manu has been one of the best SG's of the last decade (top-5). Keep in mind, out of all these mentioned players, Manu was the only one playing overseas and LEADING his own team every summer. That takes a toll. If you don't understand the way the Spurs divvy out playing time, you won't understand why Manu's minutes are the way they are. He's never been on a losing team or fringe-playoff team that's desperate for him to play 40 MPG.

[EvanW]

Nobody's actually argued why Manu isn't better than some of these guys (most of which have one less rings than he has, if any).

[WillyJakk]

Bump..


Take away Wade's athletic ability and this is what you get, a slow guy who can sometimes hit a jumper and occasionally finish, exactly what you're seeing now.

Manu's athleticism gone and he still has a better basketball mind than most so he is still therefore effective.

This is what happens when peeps get caught up in the highlight dunks, they actually forget you have to dribble be able to shoot etc.

[TheBigVeto]

2nd GOAT SG after Jordan.
Fact.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

One of the 20 best shooting guards ever but hes a system player and era specific player

[Shih508]

2nd GOAT SG after Jordan.
Fact.

[Kblaze8855]

Take away Wade's athletic ability and this is what you get, a slow guy who can sometimes hit a jumper and occasionally finish, exactly what you're seeing now.

Too bad that while he had it he was a 30/8/5 all nba first teamer who has already won 2 rings one of them playing a larger role than Manu ever has.

Manu is putting up 11.5 a game on 38% shooting as the 4th best player on his team. 10/5 on 41% with 29% from 3 vs Memphis

That it took wade playing the worst of his life to fall to near Manus level tells you something.

Manu does this its...."Ah ha! Let me bump a topic about how good he is!"

Wade does it its "What the hell is wrong with Wade?".

Which says enough about the usual expected level of play from each of them.