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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
That's because Jordan averaged 22.9 shots per game, Kobe has averaged 19.3 shots per game. If you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years, then you can also remove them so he's career stats will be 28 5 5
He also took better shots, shot more efficiently, was better at getting to the free throw line, etc. What do you mean "if you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years?" Do those not count?
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by guy
He also took better shots, shot more efficiently, was better at getting to the free throw line, etc. What do you mean "if you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years?" Do those not count?
Because Kobe was drafted onto a team with 2 all star guards and didn't get much playing time until Phil Jackson started coaching. If he was drafted onto an actual lottery team then his career stats would look much better.
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
I believe Jordan has led the league in Field Goal Attempts multiple times in his career. He did that for many seasons.
Kobe has led the league in field goal attempts for only one season.
I have made a thread about this and the mods decided to delete it.
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Palm Trees & Gangsters
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by PowerGlove
How can you remove three seasons and then label those stats career? Career is the whole thing, not just spliced seasons to make your line look better.
Double standards, huh?
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
That's because Jordan averaged nearly 23(22.9) shots per game, Kobe has averaged 19.3 shots per game. If you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years to diminish him, then you must be willing to remove them so he's career stats will be 28 5 5 compared to Jordans 30 6 5
Jordan made over 50% of shots over his career. Kobe 45%. so even if Kobe shot the same amount of shots he would average less points.
He probably will have more points than MJ, but that doesn't mean he is the better player. K Malone has the second most be he is boarderline top 15.
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
Double standards, huh?
WHAT?
Is this guy serious?
You make absolutely no sense. I'm not fixing stats to make a point here, I'm telling you them exactly as they are. It wasn't even a negative comment, I was just responding to the guy I quoted. Why you have to come up with this bullshit....the answer will always escape me.
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Where OJ Mayo Happens
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by ImmortalD24
I doubt it... but w/e
how do u figure tht he wont... he is very well condition and just turned 32. he can and will def do this. its just a matter of will it take 3 or 4 yrs to do it
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Palm Trees & Gangsters
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by Horatio33
Jordan made over 50% of shots over his career. Kobe 45%. so even if Kobe shot the same amount of shots he would average less points.
He probably will have more points than MJ, but that doesn't mean he is the better player. K Malone has the second most be he is boarderline top 15.
If both players averaged 30 PG and took the same amount of shot,It would actually mean that Jordan only made only 2 more buckets then Kobe.
As to your second point. Kareem's long career helps his case for GOAT. Then it should also help Kobe's.
Last edited by G-Funk; 08-24-2010 at 02:08 PM.
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Where OJ Mayo Happens
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by Horatio33
K Malone has the second most be he is boarderline top 15.
karl malone is most fuggin definitely in the top 15 no boarderline needed
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Local High School Star
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
That's because Jordan averaged nearly 23(22.9) shots per game, Kobe has averaged 19.3 shots per game. If you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years to diminish him, then you must be willing to remove them so he's career stats will be 28 5 5 compared to Jordans 30 6 5
hey moron, okay remove his first 3 years, then calculate his FGA average now...thank you.
and what were their FGM average please? the FG% ? okay.
thing who could be more reasonnable is to take MJ without his ankle broken and without his first retirement. add 2000pts for the 85-86 season, 2500 for the 93-94 season and 2000 for the 94-95 season (have i to precise he missed 2 years of his prime? )
it would give us MJ at first place, according that abdul-jabbar not really missed lot of games, that is incredible when you look at the number of seasons he played.
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
That's because Jordan averaged nearly 23(22.9) shots per game, Kobe has averaged 19.3 shots per game. If you wanna add Kobe's first 3 years to diminish him, then you must be willing to remove them so he's career stats will be 28 5 5 compared to Jordans 30 6 5
its way more impressive that a guy with 4 less shots a game can pass jordan in totall points by the age of 34
means kobe is more consistantly great and important to the game of basketball
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by G-Funk
As to your second point. Kareem's long career helps his case for GOAT. Then it should also help Kobe's.
No, his 6 MVP's, 6 Championships, 10 All-NBA 1st teams, 2 Finals MVPs, and his 4 or 5 seasons that rank up there with the all-time best statistical seasons in NBA history helps KAJ's case for GOAT. Kobe's resume doesn't hold a candle to Kareem's.
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
Originally Posted by KG215
No, his 6 MVP's, 6 Championships, 10 All-NBA 1st teams, 2 Finals MVPs, and his 4 or 5 seasons that rank up there with the all-time best statistical seasons in NBA history helps KAJ's case for GOAT. Kobe's resume doesn't hold a candle to Kareem's.
kobe will have more championships, more all nba 1st teams, more finals mvps and waaay more memorable a career
and his mvps dont count the same as todays cause they were player voted
if the players voted mvp kobe would have 6+ too
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
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Re: Can Kobe surpass MJ's #3 on the all-time scoring list?
pretty sure he is going to do it in 5+ years. but its meaningless.
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