Curry vs Bron

[Jasper]

This should have some interesting answers :

If you eliminated Curry's jump shot , what kind of player would you have ?


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If you eliminated Bron's slashing , what kind of player would you have ?


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* feel free to use stats, all-star selections , winning a finals etc ..

[sunnyboy91]

If Curry had a league average jump shot, he would be around Jeff Teague level of effectiveness maybe.
Lebron, with league average slashing would still be a top player, maybe around PG13 level.

LBJ has a much more well rounded game, and is capable of elite defense.
Lucky for Curry, he is by far the best shooter in NBA history.

[BigKAT]

Please explain my friend.

I can understand the mechanics of losing a Jump shot.

But I don't quite understand the slashing thing.


1. Does he lose his speed?
2. Does he lose the ability to finish in traffic?
3. Does he lose the ability to catch the ball on the move?
4. Does he lose the ability to finish at the Rim?

I think you need to base it down to something more concerte.
Perhaps consider those.

What if Lebron was an average athlete?
What if Lebron wasn't a good passer?
What if Lebron wasn't a good defender?
What if Lebron never picked up post play?

And taking away curry's jumpshot seems redundent.
He's got some nice moves inside, and can get by his defender.
But that is -because- of his jumpshot. His passing is enhanced by the attention he gets -because- of his jumpshot. Same with Lebron's passing and his post play, you take away his size and he isn't going to do much with it. Or be as good as a defender.

Really, I think players are too complex to just 'remove one attribute'.
This isn't 2k my friend.

[Orlando Magic]

I'll keep this simple... if Curry had an average to below average jumper, he's out of the league.

Without driving, LeBron still is an NBA player. He's more of a slightly above average type though... bordering on an all star..
definitely not an all time great.

Curry's D is mediocre at best and if you take away his jumper, teams don't collapse on him and there goes the vast majority of his assists or hockey assists and he essentially becomes a non issue. What are teams to fear? His drive and finish? His drive and kick? LOL. RIGHT.

LeBron could still pass and hit the right man on the court every time and his jumper would improve. His defense is far above average so there's no problem there.

Before people say if LeBron's jumper could improve why couldn't Curry's ability to finish at the hoop? It could... just not as much. Height is height. A jumper can be improved and height can't.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

I'll keep this simple... if Curry had an average to below average jumper, he's out of the league.

Without driving, LeBron still is an NBA player. He's more of a slightly above average type though... bordering on an all star..
definitely not an all time great.

Curry's D is mediocre at best and if you take away his jumper, teams don't collapse on him and there goes the vast majority of his assists or hockey assists and he essentially becomes a non issue. What are teams to fear? His drive and finish? His drive and kick? LOL. RIGHT.

LeBron could still pass and hit the right man on the court every time and his jumper would improve. His defense is far above average so there's no problem there.

Before people say if LeBron's jumper could improve why couldn't Curry's ability to finish at the hoop? It could... just not as much. Height is height. A jumper can be improved and height can't.

[hold this L]

I'll keep this simple... if Curry had an average to below average jumper, he's out of the league.

Without driving, LeBron still is an NBA player. He's more of a slightly above average type though... bordering on an all star..
definitely not an all time great.

Curry's D is mediocre at best and if you take away his jumper, teams don't collapse on him and there goes the vast majority of his assists or hockey assists and he essentially becomes a non issue. What are teams to fear? His drive and finish? His drive and kick? LOL. RIGHT.

LeBron could still pass and hit the right man on the court every time and his jumper would improve. His defense is far above average so there's no problem there.

Before people say if LeBron's jumper could improve why couldn't Curry's ability to finish at the hoop? It could... just not as much. Height is height. A jumper can be improved and height can't.

It's one of the best in the league. His % was 5th-7th in the league last season, with only centers and one other player that play SF or PF.. forget who it was. I see Jasper is still making moronic posts about Curry.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Remove Brons Athleticism and Height and He would be working in McDonalds.

[Jasper]

Please explain my friend.

I can understand the mechanics of losing a Jump shot.

But I don't quite understand the slashing thing.


1. Does he lose his speed?
2. Does he lose the ability to finish in traffic?
3. Does he lose the ability to catch the ball on the move?
4. Does he lose the ability to finish at the Rim?

I think you need to base it down to something more concerte.
Perhaps consider those.

What if Lebron was an average athlete?
What if Lebron wasn't a good passer?
What if Lebron wasn't a good defender?
What if Lebron never picked up post play?

And taking away curry's jumpshot seems redundent.
He's got some nice moves inside, and can get by his defender.
But that is -because- of his jumpshot. His passing is enhanced by the attention he gets -because- of his jumpshot. Same with Lebron's passing and his post play, you take away his size and he isn't going to do much with it. Or be as good as a defender.

Really, I think players are too complex to just 'remove one attribute'.
This isn't 2k my friend.

You figure out why he isn't an effective slasher , that is critical to his game.

[CuhGetsBucks]

Please explain my friend.

I can understand the mechanics of losing a Jump shot.

But I don't quite understand the slashing thing.


1. Does he lose his speed?
2. Does he lose the ability to finish in traffic?
3. Does he lose the ability to catch the ball on the move?
4. Does he lose the ability to finish at the Rim?

I think you need to base it down to something more concerte.
Perhaps consider those.

What if Lebron was an average athlete?
What if Lebron wasn't a good passer?
What if Lebron wasn't a good defender?
What if Lebron never picked up post play?

And taking away curry's jumpshot seems redundent.
He's got some nice moves inside, and can get by his defender.
But that is -because- of his jumpshot. His passing is enhanced by the attention he gets -because- of his jumpshot. Same with Lebron's passing and his post play, you take away his size and he isn't going to do much with it. Or be as good as a defender.

Really, I think players are too complex to just 'remove one attribute'.
This isn't 2k my friend.

Lol anyone noticing that KAT tryna get sassy in his posts now?

[PP34Deuce]

Remove Brons Athleticism and Height and He would be working in McDonalds.

Legit 6 8 250 pound SF with even average athleticism will get drafted.

If Ryan gomes could be am NBA player so could average athlete bron.

[Orlando Magic]

It's one of the best in the league. His % was 5th-7th in the league last season, with only centers and one other player that play SF or PF.. forget who it was. I see Jasper is still making moronic posts about Curry.

You don't think teams would play Curry differently if he didn't have a jumper? Keep dreaming, lol.

[hold this L]

You don't think teams would play Curry differently if he didn't have a jumper? Keep dreaming, lol.

I'm sure they would, but you said his inability to finish at the rim which is wrong. He's an elite finisher at the rim with some of the best handles in the game after Kyrie.

[CuhGetsBucks]

I'm sure they would, but you said his inability to finish at the rim which is wrong. He's an elite finisher at the rim with some of the best handles in the game after Kyrie.

Curry is an elite finisher but I can name about 5 players who have better handles than him.

[Orlando Magic]

I'm sure they would, but you said his inability to finish at the rim which is wrong. He's an elite finisher at the rim with some of the best handles in the game after Kyrie.

A lot of his shots in the paint are what you could consider uncontested because his jumper is so ****ing good that his man has had to massively "overplay" him defensively which when combined with curry's handles explains how he gets those shots.

If his defenders played him like a normal shooter those stats in the paint would ****ing TANK.

Like I said... out of the league.

[egokiller]

There's not enough time in a day, week, month, year or eternity to work on every single aspect of your game to have it all be perfect. If there was, every player for their position in the NBA would be equal, barring drastic genetic differences. These players have to pick and choose what they want to work on based on their genetic attributes.

Do you think Curry became a good shooter by practicing his slashes to the basket?

Do you think Lebron became a good slasher by practicing jump shots?

These guys realize they are good at something, so they work to perfect that aspect of their game.

Could Lebron work to become as good of a 3 point shooter as Curry? He could try but his genetics and frame effect his balance and shot mechanics. The physics of his shot even at perfect form is different than that of Curry's. It would make zero sense for Lebron to only practice mainly 3's and not focus as much on the rest of his game the way Curry does. What I will tell you is that if Lebron had the frame of say John Stockton where working on certain aspects of his game that he currenlty works on would be pointless and therefore his career would be like that of a stockton or Nash, he'd be the best passer the game has ever seen.