LeBron's 45 / 15 / 5 vs 98.0 DEF rating 2012 Celtics

[DonDadda59]

If you only two could combine your brain cells and form one coherent thought.

No need to be salty bro. The pain will heal with time. Back to the drawing board (again)

[juju151111]

This, I don't know why this dude is so mad right now. We're all on the same team. DRTG is the end all be all. 70s defense>>>>>>

And him bringing up the Lakers in '04 is shockingly hilarious. How many sub 40% chucking performances did Bean have that one postseason while freezing out the Diesel?

He certainly was no John Havlicek.

Don't ever mention Kobe with John. On a yearly basis he faced tougher defense. League wide changed in 05 to help perimeter players like Kobe. John never had that help. He was true to form. Today buttercup defense he probably avgrges something like 25 on 54% on a off year.

[juju151111]

If you only two could combine your brain cells and form one coherent thought.

Magic and Bird would definitely failed miserably and are overrated pieces of crap. Bird struggles slightly in the playoffs from time to time. He would get annihilated in the 70s.

[Simple Jack]

You've been here a little over a month. I've claimed LeBron is the 2nd best player I've ever seen since as way back on ISH as 2008.

You know that opinion changed drastically as you are clearly a prisoner of the moment. I must have quoted 10+ threads of you stating the exact opposite, ultimately making him sound like some scrub the other year. **** outta here.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Yao Ming's Left Foot poisoned your well I see

YMF is a delusional Kobe Stan yearning to be Kate Faber. I've been sarcastic about defensive rating from the jump. It's the whole basis of his warped agenda that Kobe > Everyone ... Including the man he desperately tries to be like.

At times came close, he reminded us in glimpses but still wasn't ultimately as great as Jordan. He came up just short.

With that said Bron's game 6 vs Boston is still one of the greatest playoff performance I've ever witnessed. That I'm most certainly not being sarcastic about. LeBron has had a few playoff performances on par or better than anything I've seen from any player.

2013 Finals, Game 7
2012 ECF, Game 6
2007 ECF, Game 5
2008 ECSF, Game 7
2013 ECF, Game 7
2012 ECSF, Game 4

Plus his whole ECF in 2009

[sportjames23]

Magic and Bird would definitely failed miserably and are overrated pieces of crap. Bird struggles slightly in the playoffs from time to time. He would get annihilated in the 70s.

I can't even...

[sportjames23]

YMF is a delusional Kobe Stan yearning to be Kate Faber.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

YMF is a delusional Kobe Stan yearning to be Kate Faber. I've been sarcastic about defensive rating from the jump. It's the whole basis of his warped agenda that Kobe > Everyone ... Including the man he desperately tries to be like.

At times came close, he reminded us in glimpses but still wasn't ultimately as great as Jordan. He came up just short.

With that said Bron's game 6 vs Boston is still one of the greatest playoff performance I've ever witnessed. That I'm most certainly not being sarcastic about. LeBron has had a few playoff performances on par or better than anything I've seen from any player.

2013 Finals, Game 7
2012 ECF, Game 6
2007 ECF, Game 5
2008 ECSF, Game 7
2013 ECF, Game 7
2012 ECSF, Game 4

Plus his whole ECF in 2009

[Nevaeh]

In all seriousness, DRtg is only overrated when trying to compare it across eras....and making an argument that a teams defensive rating =/= better team (you need a balance of both, obviously, although I'd prefer my teams to play better defense than vice versa).

Not to mention that the game is played on 2 sides of the ball, something that seems to get lost on Agenda seekers like YMF, but who'll conveniently remember how great offensively some of of those 2000 Laker teams were, when he needs to.

How did Shaq do against the 01 Defensive Juggernaut 76ers back in the day, YMF?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Not to mention that the game is played on 2 sides of the ball, something that seems to get lost on Agenda seekers like YMF, but who'll conveniently remember how great offensively some of of those 2000 Laker teams were, when he needs to.

How did Shaq do against the 01 Defensive Juggernaut 76ers back in the day, YMF?

So one of IF not the greatest peak player of all time puts up numbers and that trumps 82 games worth of data?

I seriously wish you guys could huddle up and come up with an intelligent rebuttal. Straw man arguments are dull.

[Illuminati]

Playing on a stacked team vs a broken down shell of a champion...

#stacked

[SilkkTheShocker]

The Heat were called the Miami Cavaliers by Reggie Miller in the playoffs last season even

STACKED

[Solefade]

#stacked

stacked on paper doe