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Old 01-19-2014, 04:55 AM   #1801
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Of course that why I said slightly. Robinson was MVP that season. Hakeem was third team all-nba along with Cylde Drexler. Glide played great during that playoff run Dream don't win his second without him.


But Hakeem is nothing but a top 20 player all-time player, AT BEST. His career is similar to Kevin Garnett or Moses Malone.Non of those two top 10. It can be stated the 97 season if David Robinson wouldn't got hurt Hakeem wouldn't got first team all-nba that season. Plus Hakeem played with the best available veteran talent in the 90s.

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When you look at 1991-1998, the worst two champions were Hakeem's two Rockets teams by a wide margin. The worst losing teams were very arguably the two teams Hakeem beat for the title.

Jordan won 6 times in a row when playing the full season, and beat much better teams than the Rockets en-route to every single one of those 6 times. So to say Hakeem, captaining the worst two championship teams in an 8 year span, would've beat the best championship team in that span, is ludicrous.

Especially when you consider that the best Bulls teams were from 92-93 and '96. Literally book ending Hakeem's titles. That's because those were Jordan's peak years. Hakeem would've beat peak Jordan? Gimmie a break. . .only happens if Jordan got hit by a car before the series.

And of course the biggest reason Hakeem beat Shaquille in '95 was due to his role players goin' berserk, hence the "Clutch City" moniker. One teammate averaged 17 ppg and 10 rpg in that Finals, another 21.5 ppg and 9.5 rpg, and yet another teammate who averaged 16.3 ppg, on ALMOST SIXTY THREE PERCENT SHOOTING, and whose team outscored O'Neal's at the line by about 50 points I thinks, yet folks say he had no help, are you ******* KIDDIN' me? Don't forget Hakeem's Barkley free throws away from having just one ring, before Mario Elie delivers his kiss of death 3, once again having a role player come through to bail him out. If James' last ring is an asterisk, well what do we call this?

Yet this is the same guy that trashes and denounces Wilt putting up numbers like that series he provided his in whole SEASONS and playoff series, yet always just says 6 > 2, or 11 > 2, yet when the same logic is used on him, is when he wants to throw up the SAME empty stats he spends every waking minute of his life on this website trashing another player for, what a hypocrite
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:25 AM   #1802
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Ben Wallace, Chamberlain, D12, Garnett, Duncan, Nate Thurmond, Russell, all better defensive players than the Nigerian Nightmare
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:11 AM   #1803
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^What's the agenda dude? it's not really fashionable to hate on Hakeem unless you have one... Like jlaubers strenuous Wilt > Kareem > Hakeem argument because of a couple of matchups when one was young and the other old.

Anyway, I've been through all this before. If you DONT believe Hakeem is top 10, you have no appreciation for context. As a player his ability stacks up with the greatest ever, it's not his fault his team was garbage for most of his career

here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=305997
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:45 AM   #1804
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:52 AM   #1805
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^What's the agenda dude? it's not really fashionable to hate on Hakeem unless you have one... Like jlaubers strenuous Wilt > Kareem > Hakeem argument because of a couple of matchups when one was young and the other old.

Anyway, I've been through all this before. If you DONT believe Hakeem is top 10, you have no appreciation for context. As a player his ability stacks up with the greatest ever, it's not his fault his team was garbage for most of his career

here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=305997


Hakeem isn't top 10. Dream had good teammates through out his career. Hakeem style of play in his early years wasn't that smooth. The criticism that Dwight Howard have these days can be applied to Dream too. Dream was blackhole. He didn't pass for nothing and he wasn't a mental discipline player. Basically he was Rasheed Wallace nutcase type of player.


I mean Dream came into the NBA playing with a all-nba/all-star player and couldn't get out the first round against a .500 ball club. Plus with that same player lost against a under .500 ball club in 87. Plus in 92 he missed the playoffs while accused of faking an injury with an all-star player on his team.


Dream,Ewing, and Robinson all had similar built teams but Hakeem always get the "he didn't have enough help" excuse. Dream played with all-nba players, hall of famers while playing at all-star levels, all-defensive players. He had more than enough to win no need to use that excuse anymore.
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Old 01-19-2014, 11:57 AM   #1806
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Hakeem isn't top 10. Dream had good teammates through out his career. Hakeem style of play in his early years wasn't that smooth. The criticism that Dwight Howard have these days can be applied to Dream too. Dream was blackhole. He didn't pass for nothing and he wasn't a mental discipline player. Basically he was Rasheed Wallace nutcase type of player.


I mean Dream came into the NBA playing with a all-nba/all-star player and couldn't get out the first round against a .500 ball club. Plus with that same player lost against a under .500 ball club in 87. Plus in 92 he missed the playoffs while accused of faking an injury with an all-star player on his team.


Dream,Ewing, and Robinson all had similar built teams but Hakeem always get the "he didn't have enough help" excuse. Dream played with all-nba players, hall of famers while playing at all-star levels, all-defensive players. He had more than enough to win no need to use that excuse anymore.

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Old 01-19-2014, 12:39 PM   #1807
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Greatest way to ruin a great thread? Bring a Wilt and Hakeem argument
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:13 PM   #1808
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Greatest way to ruin a great thread? Bring a Wilt and Hakeem argument

It was a LeBron and Dirk argument a couple of pages back.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:45 PM   #1809
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wrong post...sorry
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:15 AM   #1810
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Wasn't Hakeem's rep at a low point during that year ?

I really doubt many felt Brad was actually better than Hakeem.


Not really alot of that was on Hakeem. The way how he acted about his injury was suspect. I mean the guy refused to play and they couldn't find nothing wrong with him.

Brad was 22,10,4 with 57% shooting compared to Dream 22,12,2 with 50% shooting. So clearly Brad outplayed him espec him being leading scorer on 57 win team compared to Hakeem 42 win team.
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:31 PM   #1811
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"Jordan didn't develop a fadeaway until 1995".

Do people even watch games?
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:11 PM   #1812
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"Jordan didn't develop a fadeaway until 1995".

Do people even watch games?

I'm gonna go ahead and take a stab at this one....

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Old 01-28-2014, 07:29 PM   #1813
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Peak T-Mac took the Magic to 19 wins. Peak Spanoulis takes them to an NBA championship.

Actually, they are in a different universe.

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Old 01-28-2014, 07:31 PM   #1814
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Damn, beat me to it. That's one for the ages though.
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