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							[QUOTE]Burke struggled to hit the broad side of a barn in his brief 66 preseason minutes. There are some valid concerns here, both about the types of shots as well as what it says about his adjustment to NBA-level size and speed. But I
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							[QUOTE]Rotations. Specifically, a growing faction of Jazz fans is convinced that every minute a veteran plays is a wasted opportunity. But here
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							The Utah Jazz, with less than a week to go before the league deadline, remain in talks with swingman Gordon Hayward on a contract extension, according to sources close to the process. ESPN.com 
 
Sources told ESPN.com that Hayward remains likely to land an extension before the deadline, with negotiations expected to pick up in pace this weekend after the team returns from a weeklong road trip in Southern California. ESPN.com 
 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							[QUOTE]Wolves big man Chris Johnson didn
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							Marc Stein: Too late to change my ROY pick -- and Oladipo will have a great shot at it obviously -- but raves for Dennis Schroeder are already piling up Twitter @ESPNSteinLine
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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				Jamaal Tinsley to shore up the guard line, that hadn’t happened by game time.
			
		  
	 
 Could make sense to wait and see what else is out there with cuts being made. 
 
	
		
			
			
				Friday’s loss made it seven consecutive preseason defeats, following an opening-night win. After manhandling Golden State, 101-78 on Oct. 8, they went on to lose like priests at a craps table. Portland, the Clippers and Lakers each beat them twice and Oklahoma City beat them once.
 
Does that mean anything?
 
“Not necessarily,” said coach Tyron Corbin, adding that in the preseason “you want to get a feeling for who you are, but it’s not really indication of what kind a season you’ll have, good or bad.”
 
Corbin is right. Preseason results make for spotty forecasting. There have been years when the Jazz reeked in the preseason, yet went on to great seasons. Other times they were nearly flawless in October but ineffectual the rest of the year.
 
The Jazz went 1-7 in 1990 but ended up winning 54 games and reaching the conference semifinals. In 2003 they were 7-1 in exhibition, only to miss the playoffs. In the Jazz’s two greatest seasons, 1996-97 and 1997-98, they only went 4-4 and 5-3.
 
Moral to the story: Preseason is like a sore throat — it could be a big deal or it might not.
			
		  
	 
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				One indication they are still a few tomatoes short of a salad is that they’ve pinned big hopes on injured rookie Trey Burke. He’s talented, but the next Deron Williams?
 
Right now he’s not even the next Mo Williams.
			
		  
	 
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				There’s some talent, but not enough to contend.
 
Kanter would disagree.
 
“I mean, this room has enough talent to beat every team on every court,” Kanter said as he sat at his locker at the Honda Center. “I’m talking about Jeremy (Evans), Alec (Burks), Gordon (Hayward), Derrick (Favors), Trey Burke … This is my third year and we have enough talent to beat every team.”
			
		  
	 
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				Is signing Favors and Hayward to extensions a wise move? Andrei Kirilenko’s big contract was a problem near the end of his Utah sojourn. But in this case, the Jazz don’t have much choice; they can’t build around their mascot. Surely other teams would prosper with them if the Jazz didn’t.
			
		  
	 
 Time will tell. They have a choice. If you have to overpay them than you are better off letting them go to another team. 
 
	
		
			
			
				Hayward looked like he was worth a bundle in the first half, filling up the box score the way, well, Kirilenko once did. But he’s far more adept offensively than AK-47 ever was.
			
		  
	 
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				their dismal preseason record doesn’t seem to overly concern Jazz fans or the media.
			
		  
	 
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							[QUOTE]When Feb. 21 came and the NBA
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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				A misleading shooting performance at the Orlando Pro Summer League was quickly overshadowed by solid performances in the first two preseason games. However, the question remains of how he is using the time off the floor and whether he will be prepared to step back into a key role.
			
		  
	 
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				The mental part of the game is sometimes a concern, but some within the organization believe Kanter is a future All-Star.
			
		  
	 
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							[QUOTE]Evans is rail-thin, so he
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							The Jazz organization is pleased that he has been as independent as he
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							[QUOTE]The Jazz want to get stops so they can get out and run, and score in transition. 
 
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