Lebron by miles. To compare Lebron to such a inferior player like Kobe is a disgrace. Pre-prime 09 Lebron lead a cast of trash to 66 wins and the ECF and had already led trash to the finals 2 years before, while PRIME Kobe could not even win a single playoff series in the 3 seasons he had without a HOF big man, going first round KO as a 7th seed twice and missing the playoffs the other time....and you want to compare pre-prime Kobe to pre-prime Lebron despite pre-prime Lebron being way better than even PRIME Kobe???

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Lebron by miles. To compare Lebron to such a inferior player like Kobe is a disgrace. Pre-prime 09 Lebron lead a cast of trash to 66 wins and the ECF and had already led trash to the finals 2 years ago, while PRIME Kobe could not even win a single playoff series in the 3 seasons he had without a HOF big man, going first round KO as a 7th seed twice and missing the playoffs the other time....and you want to compare pre-prime Kobe to pre-prime Lebron despite pre-prime Lebron being way better than even PRIME Kobe???

Would Kobe have made a single playoffs on the Cavs?

Lebron by miles. To compare Lebron to such a inferior player like Kobe is a disgrace. Pre-prime 09 Lebron lead a cast of trash to 66 wins and the ECF and had already led trash to the finals 2 years ago, while PRIME Kobe could not even win a single playoff series in the 3 seasons he had without a HOF big man, going first round KO as a 7th seed twice and missing the playoffs the other time....and you want to compare pre-prime Kobe to pre-prime Lebron despite pre-prime Lebron being way better than even PRIME Kobe???

09 could be considered his peak. Idk what you mean pre prime.

Would Kobe have made a single playoffs on the Cavs?

Would LeBron have won a single playoff series if he played in the West?

After all, he was 1-5 against 50+ win teams in the playoffs as a Cavalier, and unfortunately there were no 40 win teams for Bronzy to beat up on in the playoffs out West.

Maybe he would have eventually joined up with Timmy D and the Spurs to finally win a series?

I'd take 2013 LeBron over 03' Kobe (and probably every version of Kobe) because of his new-refined skillset, to go along with impact. 2009 is a tossup though.

I'd take 2013 LeBron over 03' Kobe (and probably every version of Kobe) because of his new-refined skillset, to go along with impact. 2009 is a tossup though.

09 LeBron would do the same has 2013. Way more athletic. He was jumping from the ft line in game.

2009 LeBron was a beast, no doubt. His game today is more polished though. Dude's mid-to-long range game is wayyyy more consistent, as is his defense.

Agreed. But really you think it's a toss up between 2009 LeBron and 2003 Kobe? Even without as much defensive consistency, added post game, refined jumper, and more polish on his game. I thought 2009 and 2010 LeBron was a better player than Kobe ever was.

At what exactly? He has a post game and picks his spots to cherry pick points. That's all he better at. He was wayy more athletic and explosive in 09. He didn't need a post game then. His first step was way better.