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Old 07-09-2013, 06:15 AM   #31
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Lakers 91 and longtime lurker, thank you guys for the excellent posts, this is the type of discussion we need to have on ISH
I apologize for my part of the garbage that happened in some other threads....stuff that I did not start.

I seriously question whether we should sign Pau at any price after this season, he is very injury prone, unwilling to play through it and will only get worse......just my opinion.
I do hope Kobe forgets about the money and takes a major cut to help the team.

Thanks for the compliment wanted to use that emoticon that was a good enough excuse

I for some reason just want Pau to stay, I think he's been treated rather harshly in how he has been criticized, I don't think you have him as a bench player for next season I mean he's earning close to $20 million this season I think 19 or 18 and also I would like to see him at center back at his imo more natural position and I don't think we have anymore other options/able to bring him off the bench anyway and I hope he does good this year, but I think if you re-sign him for a cheap amount then I think bringing him off the bench could be a good idea, he might be 34 or 35 by that time but I think for the age I think his skillset is likely to I'm not saying it won't age at all but I think his skills might last longer than some others his age, he's more of a finesse bigman, no he's not the huge Shaq type figure or Bynum or Dwight in that mold and gets called soft a lot but I think I'd rather use the word finesse, he's averaged 10 rebounds a number of years so I don't think soft is the right word to describe Pau, although brute strength obviously isn't his strength it's a game based on skill. I think his game is under appreciated not to mention hiring a coach with a system that didn't work very well for him and didn't appreciate him either or at least it appeared that way. I agree he has been injury prone this season but when he is healthy even aging I think as a member off the bench it could be quite a useful weapon, I mean what else has our bench done in previous years? Not that much in comparison to look at potentially in 2015 having Pau as a bench member, who showed signs this year towards the end of being the Pau of old or more so the Pau with confidence than Pau of old imo, I think it's a good idea. Then again I am I don't know whether I'd say a big Pau fan more so I just think he's given a lot of unfair criticism.

You would think at this stage of his career or hope Kobe could care less about the money, I mean he's worth what more than 150 million? I think I saw something say 220 million as his net worth, that and even after he retires as a personality I think he'd remain popular not as popular as Jordan after he retired he has a virtual personality cult lol, but I think he'd still be able to sell merchandise and everything after retirement, not that he would really need to, I don't see him worrying as much about the money or I hope he doesn't I mean even if he takes $2-3 million a year I mean after taxes that's still more than a million a year might sound odd that he'd take so little but I mean what is the average wage a year in America? Here it's about 65-70 I can't remember the latest stats, I mean compare that to just a minimum contract if the average wage over there is similar I mean it's still a heck of a lot of money, and to someone who probably shouldn't need it lol, I think or hope at this stage he signs on for very little and shows to other potential free agents that he doesn't care about the money I only care about winning, and I will not hinder cap room for you and others to come here to win a championship type thing (although he wouldn't say that I think that's the ideal way to try and make the situation appear)

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:29 AM   #32
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As far as Pau and Kobe in order to entice them to take pay cuts all management has to do is point to two players...Payton and Malone. If Lakers management can sell these guys on a game plan I believe they'll resign. Ideally you'd like to have Pau as the first big off the bench. I know Lakers fans will be like whoa whoa Pau's not a bench player, but he'll be a year older with more miles on his body. He can only play Center and he doesn't provide a defensive presence. I can see Kobe and Pau taking a pay cut 2 year deals with player options on the 2nd year, but management can't screw up. They have to land at least one big free agent and sign some young players with potential. No, oh well we gave it a shot, we'll just fill up the roster with min. contracts and wait for 2015. That's just not a good way to do business.

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I would agree, I think Pau was only so against being on the bench this year because he didn't believe Earl Clark provided more than him or he felt that he didn't deserve to be benched, I think that when you are at 35 or around that age he'd probably realize or be a bit more conscious about his body and physical shape and might think it's a good idea, he can come on as the bench's post presence, I think that when he gets older he might think it could be a decent idea, or he could hate the idea I just think he won't be as against it. The main thing I think you've already touched on why you might bring him on the bench is his lack of defensive presence, not that he's the worst but he's not very good, although his height at 7"0/7"1 isn't the worst to have, I think it showed this year that when he actually played center he was still pretty good, or when his confidence is up anyway, I think that is part of Pau's problem is that he can be mentally not weak but can be easily disappointed and his morale goes down and he becomes a little existentialist lol, maybe that's a bit harsh to his mental or psychological side but I think his morale can go up and down quite quickly, I think in 2012 he was still disappointed about being traded and I think he's been a bit worried about that ever since, I mean he was a little expendable imo in the eyes of management with Dwight and Bynum at different times, I think now he might be a bit more back to himself knowing he is the Lakers center or knowing that he isn't really trade bait anymore unless they decide to really go into full rebuild mode. Although I said before that 2014 is more building blocks I think they do need to try at least one big free agent to try and entice those in the 2015 class I hope, I am not saying that we should do nothing for 2014, just that I don't see as many coming here as 2015 might, although the more I think about it in 2014 the more I could see Carmelo potentially coming here although he might stay in New York could see him maybe leaving with New York's lack of cap room and the Lakers if they re-sign Kobe and Pau cheap still having a fair bit of wiggle room for 2015 cap wise.
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