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Old 04-09-2013, 10:00 PM   #16
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Wouldn't you like a Knicks-Nets second round series?
I would. Now Pacers need to close the season out 0-4 and nets need to win every game to get the three seed. Cavs, I truly resent your shitty franchise. Did you seriously lose a 23 point fourth quarter lead in 11 minutes?
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:06 PM   #17
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I would. Now Pacers need to close the season out 0-4 and nets need to win every game to get the three seed. Cavs, I truly resent your shitty franchise. Did you seriously lose a 23 point fourth quarter lead in 11 minutes?
Oh come on, let's not act like the nets were actually going to get the 3rd seed should the Pacers have lost.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:07 PM   #18
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I would. Now Pacers need to close the season out 0-4 and nets need to win every game to get the three seed. Cavs, I truly resent your shitty franchise. Did you seriously lose a 23 point fourth quarter lead in 11 minutes?
If you are relying on the Cavs to beat the Pacers in Indiana to help your team, you have no one to blame but the guys you root for. Anyone shocked to see the Cavs give up a big lead at this point in the season hasn't been paying attention.

And this game meant nothing for the Cavs... Actually, probably better that they lose (though I was hoping they'd pull it out).
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:22 PM   #19
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Jeff Pendergraph +23 in 8 minutes (all in the fourth I assume lol)
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:34 PM   #20
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Jeff Pendergraph +23 in 8 minutes (all in the fourth I assume lol)
Meanwhile, Wayne Ellington an unfathomable -27.

Help us, Dion Waiters. There was actually a chance he played tonight going into the game.

I like Wayne, but he shouldn't be playing 35 minutes under any circumstances unless the game is in five overtimes.
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Cavs need to eventually stop tanking, and start trying to actually win some games. They can't finish every year on a bad note, and expect to eventually turn it around.
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Cavs need to eventually stop tanking, and start trying to actually win some games. They can't finish every year on a bad note, and expect to eventually turn it around.
The turn around will really begin when the front office deems it time to start spending the massive amount of money they have been holding onto. And, getting in good draft position isn't just about bringing in young guys. High draft picks can be important pieces to making big moves which could make the team better now.

When you have an abundance of cap space and high draft picks, you can make things happen. I would be surprised if the Cavs brought in two more young guys with top 15 picks again this offseason (assuming the Lakers sneak into the playoffs and the Cavs get their pick).

It isn't tanking... They are just very young and the roster is very thin. But, that is by design. The FO has been hoarding picks and money for years... Rightfully so, imo. You have to go through some pain now to be better off down the road.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:46 PM   #23
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If I were Kyrie and they still tank next season, I'd ask for a trade.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:51 PM   #24
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If I were Kyrie and they still tank next season, I'd ask for a trade.

This. Next season is time for them to actually compete.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:57 PM   #25
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The turn around will really begin when the front office deems it time to start spending the massive amount of money they have been holding onto. And, getting in good draft position isn't just about bringing in young guys. High draft picks can be important pieces to making big moves which could make the team better now.

When you have an abundance of cap space and high draft picks, you can make things happen. I would be surprised if the Cavs brought in two more young guys with top 15 picks again this offseason (assuming the Lakers sneak into the playoffs and the Cavs get their pick).

It isn't tanking... They are just very young and the roster is very thin. But, that is by design. The FO has been hoarding picks and money for years... Rightfully so, imo. You have to go through some pain now to be better off down the road.

Yea but eventually you have to start winning some games, especially like tonight when you have a 20+ lead in the 4th. It's hurts morale for the team when you lose like that. You end up getting labeled perennial losers when you can never close out games.

The team has talent. They should be able to start gelling and building momentum for the coming years. Plus the east is weak. There is no reason they should not be in the playoffs within 2 years. Next year should be high 30 wins at a minimum.
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Jeff Pendergraph +23 in 8 minutes (all in the fourth I assume lol)
they were, and he was a GIGANTIC reason this comeback happened. him playing for Hibbert made it actually possible to hedge on Irving, and well Cavs ain't got much else to beat you.

also, Pacers won after trailin by 20 w/9 min left. Entering Wed., teams trailing by 20+ pts w/9 min or less left were 1-4,382 in last 15 seasons. From one of the ESPN twitter accounts.
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Tracy McGrady was sitting courtside right under the hoop at this game, and was in town on "business." He left at the same time as Kevin Pritchard. I think Indy's about to sign him.
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Yea but eventually you have to start winning some games, especially like tonight when you have a 20+ lead in the 4th. It's hurts morale for the team when you lose like that. You end up getting labeled perennial losers when you can never close out games.

The team has talent. They should be able to start gelling and building momentum for the coming years. Plus the east is weak. There is no reason they should not be in the playoffs within 2 years. Next year should be high 30 wins at a minimum.
I look at things completely differently, at least about tonight's game and this season in general. This year was simply a learning experience for a ton of young guys. You are looking at it like this is year two or three for the young guys and it's time to improve. Actually, the team was far younger this year than it was last year and it was way younger in 2012 than it was in 2011. The starting lineup had an average age of under 22 for most of the season. Four of the team's best five players were 22 or under.

Those kinds of teams simply don't win a lot of games. While guys like Jamison and Anthony Parker were well past their primes, they added something last year that this year's team didn't have.

There were basically no veterans on the entire roster. This was as young as the team will ever be. And, tonight's game tells me nothing. Waiters is still out and Ellington played 35 minutes. That doesn't tell you much about the future of the franchise.

I still really like where things are heading. When this team is ready to start competing for the playoffs (I'm guessing next year will be the first real push), the roster will reflect it. There will be a mix of talented young players and savvy veterans.

You need both... Right now, the team has the young talent, but because there has been an effort to accumulate cap space and draft picks, what surrounds that young talent is nothing approaching a playoff caliber roster. That can change very quickly. I feel like the hard part of the rebuild is just about over.

We have one of the league's best young players and a couple other really talented young guys, with Waiters and Thompson. Now, time to compliment them and even attempt to make a really big move with all of those assets I spoke about earlier.

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