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Old 01-30-2013, 08:19 AM   #31
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Great teacher? Definitely. But the guy regularly tossed his players under the bus and he stayed in the same place for very long.
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Offensive schemes: Greg Popovich, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley
Defensive schemes: Greg Popovich, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson
In game adjustments: Greg Popovich, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson
Rotations: Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Pat Riley (the second toughest category)
Developing young talent: Greg Popovich, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson
Managing egos: Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Greg Popovich
Adjusting to aging rosters: Greg Popovich, Pat Riley (the toughest category)
Calling plays out of a time out in crucial situations: Greg Popovich, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley
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Don't agree with posters regarding rotations and Pop. He had man-love for Finley (over Hill) and Bonner/Blair (over Splitter). PJ and Riley played their best players in crunch-time instead of leaving them on the bench until it was too late.

I think the only category where Pop stands out from PJ and Riley is developing young talent. He has done a masterful job on Parker and to a lesser extent Hill and Leonard. PJ takes the cake on managing egos.

OT: Do you think Riley is sanctioning Spoelstra's small ball line-ups? You'd think he would have to be - but it just goes against the image of Riley/defense.

O that's valid to bring up about Pop. He has had a tendency lean on certain players, even when those players aren't necessarily the best option.
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He didn't get better. He just had KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, and Rondo on his team ... and a defensive guru in Tom Thibadeau who came from a Pat Riley lineage of talented defensive basketball minds.

This. I like Rivers, but he got handed a s.hitload of talent and all of a sudden he is considered a top-tier coach. Go f.ucking figure. He is a great motivator and has a knack for great plays after a timeout. But his offense is incredibly predictable and his teams have blown 4 different 3-2 series leads since he has been coaching.
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What sets Riley apart is that he didn't rely on a system. He built the system around his players from showtime In LA to the defensive teams in NY and Miami to Wade's rookie year when he ran the offense through him Odom and Butler and got to the 2nd round of the playoffs to the Wade dominated championship team with the great defensive bench.
Thats true, but the thing with a guy like Pop, is he's had the same general foundation for his team most of his career. However, he made big adjustments to his system when D-Rob retired, and when Tony Parker became the focal point of the offense.
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Offensive schemes: Phil. Rings speak volumes.
Defensive schemes: Pat Riley
In game adjustments: Phil. Intangible
Rotations: Pop
Developing young talent: Pop
Managing egos: This is tough, all 3 of them are great(Phil slightly wins)
Adjusting to aging rosters: Pop
Calling plays out of a time out in crucial situations: Riley
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Offensive schemes: Phil Jackson.
Defensive schemes: Gregg Popovich (though it's more of a two way tie between him and Riley).
In game adjustments: Gregg Popovich.
Rotations: This is a wash. I don't know if it's ever possible to measure, all of them have had great rotations and have made mistakes in the playoffs.
Developing young talent: Don't know if this is more of a by-product of a great front office or specifically defining an appropriate role for a player, but seems like this is Popovich's.
Managing egos: Has to be Phil, no doubt. Other guys weren't even in the similar situations.
Adjusting to aging rosters: Also a wash.
Calling plays out of a time out in crucial situations:Gregg Popovich, hand down.

My all time list is:
1.Phil
2.Popovich
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Everytime I watch people get interviewed, and asked questions about Pop, the one thing that they always harp about is the fact that Pop treats everyone the same in practice. Meaning that he'll treat Tim, and Bonner the same, no ones exempt from criticism. It's not like Mike Brown just saying Lebron/Kobe could do whatever they want. How many times have we seen Pop, let Tony have it in the middle of games. In fact Pop saids he's always been harder on his stars, simply because he expects a lot out of them.
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