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Old 11-19-2012, 01:30 PM   #16
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Default Re: The 1-2 rule or How Jordan revolutionized the Game

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Old 11-19-2012, 01:52 PM   #17
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50' : Mikan
60' : Chamberlain & Russell
70' : Abdul-Jabbar
80' : Bird & Johnson
90' : Jordan

00' : Kobe & Duncan

and

10' : LeBron?

00': Shaq & Duncan.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #18
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Mikan, Chamberlain, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar, Bird, Johnson, Jordan. What do those generational players have in common? They came in wave of one, followed by two ad repetitam. Just look :

50' : Mikan
60' : Chamberlain&Russell
70' : Abdul-Jabbar
80' : Bird&Johnson
90' : Jordan

This is a rather funny coincidence. And I am not able to explain why such a things happened that way. But what seemed like a rule of sort has been destroyed by Jordan who made the NBA the superbrand it is today.

How so? There has been 4 generational player since Jordan. Three of them are even still playing today. Who are they? None other than Bryant, Duncan, James and O'Neal.

And this is why Jordan is the biggest superstar the sports world has ever seen.

Honestly, what's the point you're trying to make? That there have been more generational players than ever before and this is due to Jordan?
First of all, so what if 3 of these 4 guys play today and the 4th one retired recently? The 2010's do not belong to Shaq and Duncan by a long shot and hardly anyone would claim that the 2000's belonged to LeBron, either. So, in general, each era still belonged to no more than a couple of players. Wilt also played in the 70's, Kareem and Jordan also played in the 80's, Magic and Bird also played in the 90's. Second, you forgot Dr.J for the 70's - not as dominant in the NBA as Kareem, but very highly impactful. Third, I see no list of "all sports" or even "all leagues" here, just the NBA.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:22 PM   #19
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Default Re: The 1-2 rule or How Jordan revolutionized the Game

My point is clearly written. You understood it too. So I don't get your nonsensical first lines.

It seems to be that there was an existing pattern before Jordan arrived and made the NBA the super sport it is today. 1 generational player, then two, then one, then two then one. That last one contributed to make the NBA explodes. It got us an array of generational players (4 for this past generation) that was never seen before.

Even though Wilt played in the 70's, he was the generational player from the sixties. Likewise, Kobe, Lebron and Duncan are playing in the 10', and yet they are generational player from the 00'.

And, the last point I made was that Jordan is the biggest superstar the world sport has ever seen since he contributed to make so many generational players appear. This is something that, as far as I know, hasn't been done anywhere else, in any other sport.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:27 PM   #20
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And I used a funny coincidence to illustrate my point. But no, some of you are so anally retarded, you can't get it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:40 PM   #21
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My point is clearly written. You understood it too. So I don't get your nonsensical first lines.

It seems to be that there was an existing pattern before Jordan arrived and made the NBA the super sport it is today. 1 generational player, then two, then one, then two then one. That last one contributed to make the NBA explodes. It got us an array of generational players (4 for this past generation) that was never seen before.

Even though Wilt played in the 70's, he was the generational player from the sixties. Likewise, Kobe, Lebron and Duncan are playing in the 10', and yet they are generational player from the 00'.

And, the last point I made was that Jordan is the biggest superstar the world sport has ever seen since he contributed to make so many generational players appear. This is something that, as far as I know, hasn't been done anywhere else, in any other sport.

Every superstar contributed to consecutive explosions of the NBA, and nobody did it by himself and without the explosion of the media. Last time I checked, it wasn't in Jordan's time when the NBA acquired black superstars or it went from 8 teams to 30 and it's not Jordan's time now that basketball is played at a high level by more people than ever before and most young kids know a lot more about Kobe and LeBron than Jordan.

If LeBron is a generational player of the 00's, then Jordan is a generational player of the 80's and Shaq of the 90's. It's not anyone's fault or to anyone's credit that some generational players start their careers in the beginning or the end of a decade (Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Kobe also became a "generational player" in the early 00's) and others at or near the middle of it (Dr.J, Jordan, Shaq, LeBron).
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:49 PM   #22
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PS. Not to mention that everyone could add their own criteria of what a generational player is and could add a few more ones, like West, Baylor, Robertson or Moses Malone.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:59 PM   #23
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Jordan just came into the league at the right time actually. Media tools during the days of Wilt or Mikan was still at infancy stage. If the internet existed during the time of Russell and Wilt, they would probably be more popular than they are now.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #24
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Hey let's play patterns

Eary 00s: Shaq & Duncan
Late 00s: Kobe
Early 10s: LeBron & Durant
Late 10s: Unibrow

Pattern safe. Jordan back to being the GOAT without bizarre theories being needed.
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What do you think jordans stats would look like if he played in todays era?
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:50 PM   #26
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What do you think jordans stats would look like if he played in todays era?
12/2/2 at best...
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12/2/2 at best...

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C'mon dude, look at your agenda. It's in your avatar.

Thread OP retard has nothing to do with MJ being a mythic player, and by all accounts the best player of all-time.




6 rings
6 FMVP
5 MVP
DPOY

What are you smoking, dumb ass?

Lol, only one of those is a record and that's only because they didn't have finals mvp while Russell was playing. Kareem had more mvp's than Jordan did. Russell had more rings. Most of the records he has are helped by the fact that he quit twice while in his prime. I'm the dumb-ass right? The best individual record he has that isn't a career average is consecutive years leading the league in scoring and individual playoff game record. And even then it's a bit convoluted.

Like I said, he's great. In fact I think he's the GOAT. I just don't think the gap is as big as the stans think, otherwise they wouldn't be having to come up with super contrived reasons like the random stupidity in this thread to make him the GOAT.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:58 AM   #29
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No

Jordan revolutionized the shooting guard position not the game.. He and other legend(Magic, Bird, etc) started doing it, but it was Kobe who finished the job..
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