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Old 09-27-2012, 05:03 PM   #31
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Great effort from Le Mans to beat Unics Kazan. JP Batista absolutely dominated Vougioukas down low and Charles Kahudi played really tough defense.

BTW Kaimakoglou looks just like Brian Greenberg.

Pretty sure UNICS lost on purpose. I think they are copying Khimki's model. Just win Eurocup and then they get more sponsor money the next season.

I'm glad anyway, because I really prefer Cantu be in Euroleague instead. UNICS has a big budget, but Cantu fits much more to what a traditional Euroleague team should be.

Now, if Le Mans beats Cantu then that will suck. Two French teams in Euroleague is just bad.
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Is even worthy create a League with people from ISH?

No. Not enough people here follow Euroleague.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #33
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BTW, here's the Bwin Euroleague player rankings:


(players rated from 50-99):


1. Vassilis Spanoulis - 100
2. Nenad Krstic - 94
3. Bo McCalebb - 92
4. Dimitris Diamantidis - 90
5. Erazem Lorbek - 88
6. Milos Teodosic - 85
7. Juan Carlos Navarro - 81
8. Rudy Fernandez - 80
9. Nikola Mirotic - 80
10. Sonny Weems - 77
11. Mike Batiste - 75
12. Viktor Khryapa - 75
13. Fernando San Emeterrio - 73
14. Jordan Farmar - 73
15. Dusko Savanovic - 73
16. Marcelinho Huertas - 72
17. David Andersen - 72
18. Maciej Lampe - 72
19. Sofoklis Schortsanitis - 71
20. Malik Hairston - 71
21. Ioannis Bourousis - 70
22. Andres Nocioni - 70
23. Keith Langford - 70
24. Ksistof Lavrinovic - 69
25. Zoran Planinic - 68
26. Paul Davis - 68
27. Pete Mickeal - 67
28. Georgios Printezis - 65
29. Marko Popovic - 65
30. Jaycee Carroll - 65
31. Sasha Vujacic - 65
32. Romain Sato - 65
33. Ronnie Seibutis - 64
34. Blake Schilb - 64
35. Sergio Llull - 63
36. Lior Eliyahu - 63
37. Kostas Papanikolaou - 62
38. Bojan Bogdanovic - 62
39. Bostjan Nachbar - 62
40. Antonis Fotsis - 61
41. Devin Smith - 61
42. Nik Caner-Medley - 61
43. Roko Ukic - 60
44. Rimantas Kaukenas - 60
45. Felipe Reyes - 60
46. Vitaly Fridzon - 58
47. Jonas Maciulis - 58
48. David Moss - 58
49. Aaron Jackson - 58
50. Richard Hendrix - 58
51. Marcus Slaughter - 58
52. Kyle Hines - 57
53. Omar Cook - 57
54. Yogev Oyahon - 57
55. Stanko Barac - 57
56. Darjus Lavrinovic - 57
57. Andy Panko - 56
58. Luka Zoric - 56
59. David Logan - 56
60. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 55
61. Nathan Jawai - 55
62. Curtis Jerrells - 55
63. KC Rivers - 55
64. Tremmell Darden - 55
65. Giorgi Shermadini - 54
66. Fran Vazquez - 54
67. Mantas Kalnietis - 54
68. Dontaye Draper - 54
69. DaShaun Wood - 54
70. Sylven Landesberg - 54
71. Acie Law - 53
72. Mario Kasun - 53
73. Luksa Andric - 53
74. Bracey Wright - 53
75. Oliver Lafayette - 53
76. Sharrod Ford - 53
77. Joey Dorsey - 52
78. Kresimir Loncar - 52
79. Andrey Vorontsevich - 52
80. Krunoslav Simon - 52
81. Drew Nicholas - 52
82. Carlos Cabezas - 52
83. Bobby Brown - 52
84. Julian Khazzouh - 52
85. James Gist - 52
86. Jamon Lucas - 51
87. Emir Preldzic - 51
88. Marko Tomas - 51
89. Paulius Jankunas - 51
90. Semih Erden - 51
91. Hilton Armstrong - 51
92. James Augustine - 51
93. Ante Tomic - 50
94. Vladimir Micov - 50
95. Earl Calloway - 50
96. Damir Markota - 50
97. Shelden Williams - 50
98. Deon Thompson - 50
99. Mindaugas Katelynas - 50
100. Ricky Hickman - 50
101. Zach Morley - 50
102. Dragan Milosavljevic - 50
103. Drew Gordon - 50


(players rated from 35-49):


104. Kerem Tunceri - 49
105. Tibor Pleiss - 49
106. Maik Zirbes - 49
107. Petteri Koponen - 48
108. Vladimir Dasic - 48
109. Joe Ingles - 48
110. Vule Avdalovic - 48
111. Zoran Erceg - 48
112. Patrick Christopher - 48
113. Sergio Rodriguez - 47
114. Viktor Sanikidze - 47
115. Guy Pnini - 47
116. Marcelus Kemp - 47
117. Txemi Urtasun - 47
118. Marcus Denmon - 47
119. Dejan Ivanov - 47
120. Marques Green - 47
121. Nathan Peavy - 47
122. Sergey Monya - 46
123. Anton Gavel - 46
124. Leon Radosevic - 46
125. Zoran Dragic - 46
126. Marcus Williams - 46
127. Mickael Gelabale - 46
128. Carlos Suarez - 46
129. Milko Bjelica - 46
130. Esteban Batista - 46
131. Taylor Rochestie - 46
132. Predrag Suput - 46
133. Drew Viney - 46
134. Nihad Djedovic - 45
135. Stratos Perperoglou - 45
136. Pero Antic - 45
137. Kostas Sloukas - 45
138. Brad Oleson - 45
139. Aron Baynes - 45
140. Casey Jacobsen - 45
141. Kosta Perovic - 45
142. AJ Ogilvy - 45
143. Steed Tchicamboud - 45
144. Ilian Evtimov - 45
145. Curtis Stinson - 45
146. Oguz Savas - 44
147. Sergi Vidal - 44
148. Derwin Kitchen - 44
149. Goran Suton - 44
150. Omer Onan - 43
151. Gasper Vidmar - 43
152. Victor Sada - 43
153. Marty Pocius - 43
154. Aleksandar Rasic - 43
155. Fabien Causeur - 43
156. Mirza Begic - 43
157. Predrag Samardziski - 43
158. Teddy Gipson - 43
159. Dominic Waters - 43
160. Jerel Blassingame - 43
161. Robertas Javtokas - 42
162. Kerem Gonlum - 42
163. Nemanja Nedovic - 42
164. Davis Bertans - 42
165. Matt Janning - 42
166. Kaya Peker - 42
167. Frank Robinson - 42
168. Torey Thomas - 42
169. Sasu Salin - 42
170. Dylan Page - 42
171. Dimitrios Mavroeidis - 41
172. Benjamin Eze - 41
173. Matt Nielsen - 41
174. Baris Ermis - 41
175. Lukasz Koszarek - 41
176. Sasha Kaun - 40
177. Dino Muric - 40
178. Dejan Musli - 40
179. Sinan Guler - 39
180. Marko Car - 39
181. Heiko Schaffartzik - 38
182. Gianluca Basile - 38
183. Daniel Hackett - 38
184. Nemanja Bjelica - 38
185. Adam Hrycaniuk - 38
186. Cehver Ozer - 38
187. Vladimir Lucic - 38
188. Mike Bramos - 37
189. Alessandro Gentile - 37
190. Arturas Jomantas - 37
191. Yassin Idbihi - 37
192. Shawn James - 37
193. Marko Cakarevic - 37
194. Mindaugas Kuzminskas - 37
195. Janis Blums - 36
196. Teemu Rannikko - 36
197. Djordje Gagic - 36
198. Marino Bazdaric - 36
199. Vangelis Mantzaris - 35
200. CJ Wallace - 35
201. Leo Westermann - 35
202. Alexey Zhukanenko - 35
203. Steponas Babrauskas - 35
204. Piotr Szczkota - 35
205. Danilo Andjusic - 35


(players rated 34 and below):


206. Nicolo Melli - 34
207. Xavi Rabaseda - 34
208. Nemanja Besovic - 34
209. Marco Carraretto - 33
210. Tomas Ress - 33
211. Dogus Balbay - 33
212. J Bam - 32
213. Piotr Pamula - 32
214. Philipp Neumann - 32
215. Martynas Gecevicius - 31
216. Kristjan Kangur - 31
217. Albert Miralles - 31
218. Kostas Tsartsaris - 30
219. Rok Stipcevic - 30
220. Charis Giannopoulos - 30
221. Aleksey Zozulin - 30
222. Thomas Heurtel - 30
223. Bogdan Bogdanovic - 30
224. Miro Bilan - 30
225. Tutku Acik - 29
226. Vilmantas Dilys - 29
227. Ilkan Karaman - 28
228. Jacopo Giachetti - 28
229. Tadas Klimavicius - 28
230. Luka Babic - 28
231. Branislav Djekic - 28
232. Adas Juskevicius - 28
233. Deividas Dulkys - 27
234. Alex Abrines - 27
235. Augusto Lima - 27
236. Muratcan Guler - 27
237. Robert Witka - 26
238. Jeff Foote - 26
239. Simas Buterlevicius - 26
240. Can Akin - 25
241. Dmitry Sokolov - 25
242. Dimitry Khvostov - 25
243. Emir Sulejmanovic - 25
244. Dovydas Redikas - 24
245. Nicolas Lang - 24
246. John Goldsberry - 22
247. Gaios Skordilis - 22
248. Anton Ponkrashov - 21
249. Evgeniy Voronov - 21
250. Ermal Kuqo - 20
251. Egor Vyaltsev - 20
252. Jan Mocnik - 20
253. Jordan Abodou - 20
254. Mateusz Ponitka - 20
255. Sven Schultze - 19
256. Jaka Blazic - 19
257. Ulysse Adjagba - 18
258. Joffrey Lauvergne - 17
259. Dimitrios Katsivelis - 16
260. Drazen Bubnic - 16
261. Klemen Prepelic - 15
262. Karsten Tadda - 15
263. Mario Delas - 15
264. Berkay Candan - 15
265. Vassilis Xanthopoulos - 14
266. Vytenis Lipkevicius - 14
267. Vincent Gaillard - 14
268. Joey Ney - 13
269. Marko Todorovic - 12
270. Benjamin-Pavel Dudu - 12
271. Tomasz Snieg - 12
272. David Chiotti - 11
273. Daniel Schmidt - 11
274. Anton Pushkov 10
275. Moran Roth - 10
276. Luca Lechthaler - 10
277. Alen Omic - 10
278. Erbil Eroglu - 9
279. Birkan Batur -8

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Old 09-28-2012, 11:32 AM   #34
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@Euroleague There are some mistakes by Bwin about rating of some Partizan players so I think they made mistakes about other players rating too . For example Lucic is Partizans best player and he's rated 38 , Gagic played great in preseason games and he's rated 36 . So I don't trust Bwin much .
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@Euroleague There are some mistakes by Bwin about rating of some Partizan players so I think they made mistakes about other players rating too . For example Lucic is Partizans best player and he's rated 38 , Gagic played great in preseason games and he's rated 36 . So I don't trust Bwin much .

The ratings are stats based. Obviously, young players that have not played much will not have good stats.
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Players that transfered from contenders to bottom teams are usually good picks.
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Players that transfered from contenders to bottom teams are usually good picks.

So are players that were not in a rotation last year, but will be this year.
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In honor of this thread:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=278433

This thread will help to educate the NBA fans a little more about Euroleague's history since the year 2000. Please keep in mind that these are not the leaders since Euroleague existed in 1958 under FIBA.

It is only the stats since the year 2000
, when Euroleague changed from FIBA to a privately owned league that is run by the Euroleague itself (like how the NBA is run for example).

So for instance, Nikos Galis is the player that scored the most points in the Euroleague, but because he only played during the time when FIBA ran the competition, his stats are not counted in this, etc.

OK, with that being said, here are the current career leaders in the Euroleague in stats (since the year 2000). The stats will be updated after each week of the current Euroleague season.
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Games Played:


1. Theo Papaloukas - 235
2. Jaka Lakovic - 218
3. Gianluca Basile - 217
4. Kostas Tsartsaris - 213
5. Juan Carlos Navarro - 211
6. J.R. Holden - 209
7. David Andersen - 204
8. Nikos Zisis - 200
9. Derrick Sharp - 195
10. Denis Marconato - 192
11. Nikola Vujcic - 192
12. Sergi Vidal - 190
13. Mike Batiste - 190
14. Pablo Prigioni - 183
15. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 178
16. Marcus Brown - 178
17. Tal Burstein - 178
18. Kaya Peker - 177
19. Erazem Lorbek - 177
20. Aleksey Savrasenko - 173


Performance Index Rating (PIR):

1. Nikola Vujcic - 3,047
2. Juan Carlos Navarro - 2,752
3. Marcus Brown - 2,734
4. Jaka Lakovic - 2,576
5. Mike Batiste - 2,557
6. Dimitris Diamantidis - 2,515
7. Theo Papaloukas - 2,437
8. David Andersen - 2,434
9. Mirsad Turkcan - 2,362
10. Jorge Garbajosa - 2,264
11. Luis Scola - 2,220
12. Trajan Langdon - 2,119
13. Igor Rakocevic - 2,036
14. Erazem Lorbek - 2,002
15. Gianluca Basile - 1,984
16. Gregor F u c k a - 1,958
17. Anthony Parker - 1,927
18. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 1,918
19. Matjaz Smodis - 1,903
20. J.R. Holden - 1,890


Points Scored:


1. Juan Carlos Navarro - 2,875
2. Marcus Brown - 2,715
3. Jaka Lakovic - 2,524
4. Nikola Vujcic - 2,444
5. J.R. Holden - 2,388
6. Igor Rakocevic - 2,328
7. Mike Batiste - 2,298
8. Trajan Langdon - 2,178
9. David Andersen - 2,146
10. Gianluca Basile - 2,141
11. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 2,064
12. Luis Scola - 2,054
13. Louis Bullock - 1,932
14. Matjaz Smodis - 1,818
15. Theo Papaloukas - 1,687
16. Jorge Garbajosa - 1,677
17. Ramunas Siskauskas - 1,655
18. Erazem Lorbek - 1,644
19. Dimitris Diamantidis - 1,642
20. Gregor F u c k a - 1,630


Total Rebounds:


1. Mirsad Turkcan - 1,287
2. David Andersen - 1,058
3. Nikola Vujcic - 1,037
4. Mike Batiste - 1,023
5. Denis Marconato - 963
6. Felipe Reyes - 909
7. Ioannis Bourousis - 879
8. Kerem Gonlum - 843
9. Kostas Tsartsaris - 829
10. Gregor F u c k a - 818
11. Jorge Garbajosa - 818
12. Paulius Jankunas - 817
13. Luis Scola - 810
14. Erazem Lorbek - 755
15. Michailis Kakiouzis - 745
16. Kaya Peker - 732
17. Marcus Goree - 727
18. Antonis Fotsis - 723
19. Aleksey Savrasenko - 704
20. Dimitris Diamantidis - 691


Assists:


1. Theo Papaloukas - 938
2. Pablo Prigioni - 798
3. Dimitris Diamantidis - 665
4. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 632
5. J.R. Holden - 608
6. Jaka Lakovic - 580
7. Juan Carlos Navarro - 524
8. Nikola Vujcic - 524
9. Nikos Zisis - 483
10. Gianluca Basile - 474
11. Marcus Brown - 457
12. Kerem Tunceri - 454
13. Vassilis Spanoulis - 428
14. Omar Cook - 402
15. Tyus Edney - 384
16. Milos Teodosic - 365
17. Berni Rodriguez - 357
18. Zoran Planinic - 350
19. Vlado Ilievski - 340
20. Ender Arslan - 336


Steals:


1. Theo Papaloukas - 327
2. Pablo Prigioni - 320
3. Dimitris Diamantidis - 311
4. Gianluca Basile - 259
5. J.R. Holden - 247
6. Jorge Garbajosa - 224
7. Trajan Langdon - 216
8. Shaun Stonerook - 201
9. Juan Carlos Navarro - 199
10. Jaka Lakovic - 198
11. Nikola Prkacin - 190
12. Vlado Ilievski - 188
13. Marcus Brown - 184
14. Nikola Vujcic - 181
15. Scoonie Penn - 179
16. Sergi Vidal - 175
17. Luis Scola - 174
18. Bootsy Thornton - 173
19. Kaya Peker - 168
20. Mike Batiste - 167


Blocks:


1. Fran Vazquez - 181
2. Denis Marconato - 140
3. Aleksey Savrasenko - 130
4. Nikola Vujcic - 122
5. Marcus Goree - 120
6. Ioannis Bourousis - 113
7. D'or Fischer - 112
8. Gregor F u c k a - 106
9. Viktor Khryapa - 104
10. Benjamin Eze - 102
11. Erazem Lorbek - 101
12. Maceo Baston - 100
13. Darjus Lavrinovic - 100
14. Terence Morris - 98
15. Mirza Begic - 96
16. Boniface N'Dong - 96
17. Robertas Javtokas - 93
18. Tiago Splitter - 93
19. Dimitris Diamantidis - 91
20. Kaya Peker - 90


3 Pointers Made:


1. Gianluca Basile - 417
2. Juan Carlos Navarro - 398
3. Jaka Lakovic - 381
4. J.R. Holden - 377
5. Trajan Langdon - 339
6. Marcus Brown - 323
7. Sarunas Jasikevicius - 279
8. Igor Rakocevic - 277
9. Drew Nicholas - 276
10. Louis Bullock - 275
11. Mirza Teletovic - 263
12. Henry Domercant - 236
13. Ibrahim Kutluay - 228
14. David Blu - 225
15. Dimitris Diamantidis - 223
16. Pablo Prigioni - 223
17. Derrick Sharp - 219
18. Ramunas Siskauskas - 210
19. Antonio Granger - 204
20. Marko Popovic - 204

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Like I said, Baskonia does not have a good team and teams like Rytas, Olimpijia, and Partizan are way too young to compete at Euroleague level.

If Cedevita can't win Adriatic League this year they are pathetic.
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Like I said, Baskonia does not have a good team and teams like Rytas, Olimpijia, and Partizan are way too young to compete at Euroleague level.

If Cedevita can't win Adriatic League this year they are pathetic.
Partizan will be a lot better by the end of this season and will win Adriatic league . Cedevita already lost two games and won by two points at home to Igokea ( they are playing great this season and are good enough to play Eurocup ) and Red Star .
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