Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-29-2012, 12:16 AM   #16
Pushxx
Anti-NBA Hipster
 
Pushxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Posts: 2,670
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
The Lakers all time are easily the greatest franchise in all of sports.

Yankees have something to say here. I'd put Yankees first, then Celtics, then Lakers.

After that a jumble of other teams. Off the top of my head: Steelers, Cardinals (MLB), Dodgers, Packers, Canadiens.
Pushxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:22 AM   #17
CLTHornets4eva
Original ISH CLTHornet
 
CLTHornets4eva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,804
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pushxx
How can you put the Spurs over the Celtics? How can you say they are overrated? WTF are you smoking?

Spurs #1 underrated. No contest.
CLTHornets4eva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:25 AM   #18
dkmwise
Local High School Star
 
dkmwise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,409
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

For all time it has to be Celtics and Lakers at the top and no one else is even close
dkmwise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:30 AM   #19
Myth
NBA Legend
 
Myth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 18,614
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Blazers are the best 1 championship team
Myth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:44 AM   #20
lilgodfather1
Wait and See
 
lilgodfather1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,970
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pushxx
Yankees have something to say here. I'd put Yankees first, then Celtics, then Lakers.

After that a jumble of other teams. Off the top of my head: Steelers, Cardinals (MLB), Dodgers, Packers, Canadiens.

The Lakers have 11 losing seasons (looked it up) in 64 years.

Their overall wins is 3084 in the regular season, and only 1891 losses for a win % of .620. The Yankees have a win % of .568. The Lakers dominate at a higher level, and baseballs cap system allows them to hoard players, where as the Lakers have been smart in building their champions.
lilgodfather1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:53 AM   #21
Pushxx
Anti-NBA Hipster
 
Pushxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Posts: 2,670
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
The Lakers have 11 losing seasons (looked it up) in 64 years.

Their overall wins is 3084 in the regular season, and only 1891 losses for a win % of .620. The Yankees have a win % of .568. The Lakers dominate at a higher level, and baseballs cap system allows them to hoard players, where as the Lakers have been smart in building their champions.

Average regular season win % doesn't mean that much to me.
Pushxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 01:22 AM   #22
NewYorkNoPicks
National High School Star
 
NewYorkNoPicks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,022
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
The Lakers have 11 losing seasons (looked it up) in 64 years.

Their overall wins is 3084 in the regular season, and only 1891 losses for a win % of .620. The Yankees have a win % of .568. The Lakers dominate at a higher level, and baseballs cap system allows them to hoard players, where as the Lakers have been smart in building their champions.

Utah gave the Lakers their #1 pick in 1979 due to a ridiculous rule by the NBA stating that any team losing a player to free agency must receive compensation from the team he signed with. Really not a shrewd move getting Magic Johnson because of a technicality.

Same goes for when they got James Worthy, the pick was given to them as part of that same compensation rule.

The only shrewd deal the Lakers ever made was Jerry West stealing Kobe.

And don't mention the Kareem Abdul Jabbar trade...he forced his way to the Lakers and pretty much said "its either NY or LA or I dont play".

Lastly...the Yankee cap is the most popular item of sports merchandise in all of professional sports. The symbol transcends cultures. An 80 year old woman from Zimbabwe who cant speak english could identify the Yankees symbol.
NewYorkNoPicks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 10:15 AM   #23
Champ
I hit open layups
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 188
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
The Lakers have 11 losing seasons (looked it up) in 64 years.

Their overall wins is 3084 in the regular season, and only 1891 losses for a win % of .620. The Yankees have a win % of .568. The Lakers dominate at a higher level, and baseballs cap system allows them to hoard players, where as the Lakers have been smart in building their champions.

It's difficult to compare win percentages in different sports. On balance, your top teams in baseball will have lower winning percentages than your top basketball teams.

It's the nature of each respective game.
Champ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #24
blablabla
.
 
blablabla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Linz,Austria
Posts: 6,286
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Greatest

1.Lakers
2.Celtics
3.Bulls/Spurs
4.Knicks
5.Sixers
6.Pistons
blablabla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 03:50 PM   #25
LABean
Kobe Bean
 
LABean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,539
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Celtics are most definitely overrated. One most of their titles when there were like 8 teams.


Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkNoPicks
Even as a NY fan, the most overrated is the Knicks.
I applaud you for admitting that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
LOL lakers suck.



You mad because I exposed your Bullshits and put them on the spot?



Quote:
Originally Posted by SwooshReturns
You have Celtics as 3rd greatest, AND on the overrated list? haha
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pushxx
How can you put the Spurs over the Celtics? How can you say they are overrated? WTF are you smoking?


They're overrated because people always say they're the greatest franchise, but in reality, they're not in the top 2.

Paul Pierce - PAUL PIERCE - is one of the players that represents that franchise.
LABean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 04:09 PM   #26
DKLaker
NBA rookie of the year
 
DKLaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,740
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgodfather1
The Lakers all time are easily the greatest franchise in all of sports. I believe I read that they have less than 10 losing seasons in franchise history. If that is true then that is amazing considering how old the franchise is. Boston has to be number two, and the Bulls third. I can't call the Celts first simply because they have had a lot of bad years. Fourth would be SAS, and fifth would be a tie between Houston, NYK, and Detroit imo.

As for the most overrated easily the Knicks no question.


Dude? How did you steal my exact list before I wrote it?
DKLaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 04:17 PM   #27
nycelt84
Good High School Starter
 
nycelt84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 979
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LABean



I applaud you for admitting that.






You mad because I exposed your Bullshits and put them on the spot?







They're overrated because people always say they're the greatest franchise, but in reality, they're not in the top 2.

Paul Pierce - PAUL PIERCE - is one of the players that represents that franchise.

I can understand thinking the Lakers are the greatest franchise but to say the Celtics are overrated because Paul Pierce represents makes you a downright idiot. They've won the most titles in league history, triple the amount of titles of the team in 3rd place, have the most Hall Of Famers, drafted the 1st Black player, 1st Black coach, 1st Black all starting 5, most consecutive titles, etc. How the hell is that overrated?
nycelt84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 04:28 PM   #28
caliman
Serious playground baller
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 464
Default Re: Greatest/Most Overrated Franchises?

Don't see how anyone but the Lakers can be #1 when everything is factored in, regular season success, post season success, iconic players etc.

Boston has 1 more title, but overall its the Lakers. They've been contenders in every decade, winning titles in all but the 60's and 90's. They have the most consistent success. Since the lottery system was introduced they have made the least amount of lottery picks. I believe that number is 2, Eddie Jones and Andrew Bynum.

1. Lakers
2. Celtics












Everyone else
caliman is offline   Reply With Quote
This Basketball Website Sponsored by
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:53 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Video Clips
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
NBA Summer League
Las Vegas Summer League
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Olympic Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.