Better natural athlete Kobe Bryant, Ray Allen or Larry Hughes?

[BallersTalk]

This is getting stupid. Ray and Hughes CAN NOT, WOULD NOT WILL NOT EVER DO DUNKS LIKE THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs&fmt=35

The ONLY wing players in history who could put up comparable mixes to that are Carter and Jordan.

LOL at you putting Kobe in the same breath as those two. Those two are the athletic gods of the perimeter.

[VeeCee15]

Kobe has like a 35 inch vertical if not less.

He realy doesn't jump too high for a 6'6 - 6'7 guard

[BallersTalk]

Kobe has like a 35 inch vertical if not less.

He realy doesn't jump too high for a 6'6 - 6'7 guard

Yup, outside of his long wingspan, most of his advantages are skill based.

[wang4three]

Also, I find the criticism we see emerging for Allen for not somehow getting the most he could out of his talent to be amazingly stupid. 9-time All-star, 21 ppg career scorer, NBA Champion, one of the greatest clutch shooters the league has ever seen, about to enter his 13th season with a possible 15+ year career when all is said and done. A lock for the Hall of Fame. What's he supposed to do, be Jordan? A guy can be a hard worker and yet still never achieve GOAT status, whether you people realize it or not. It's funny, there are probably a number of posters on this board that would work on their game for hours a day and could achieve nothing beyond varsity (if that) and yet people have the gall to question Allen's ethic just because he was only the third-best SG of his era (behind Bryant and AI)? Just doesn't make any sense to me. Ray Allen got plenty out of his talent. Not his fault that some of you are too stupid and/or biased to see that.

I will assess Ray Allen the way I see fit the same way you have the "gall" to insult the rest of us. I'm not saying what he has done is lackluster or to be scoffed at, but is it really that bad to think he could do more? Is it all that terrible? Maybe you feel this is the best Ray could've been. I don't. He came into the league with so many skills and already a high level understanding of the game. I still like him a lot, but I will not apologize for wanting more.

[KB2009Champ]

Yeah and while he was taunting Rashard Lewis scores the basket plus the Lakers lost. Everything Ray said about Kobe was true.

What an epic fail. A PRESEASON game.

Try again.

[KenneBell]

Kobe has like a 35 inch vertical if not less.

He realy doesn't jump too high for a 6'6 - 6'7 guard

It's not about jumping too high, it's being more athletic than Allen and Hughes, which he is.

[justin43]

Is this another Kobe Hate thread? Seriously, Kobe. Too much agenda in this thread.

[BallersTalk]

Is this another Kobe Hate thread? Seriously, Kobe. Too much agenda in this thread.

The thread starter is a Kobe fan. He disappeared because this didn't go like he expected it to.

[justin43]

The thread starter is a Kobe fan. He disappeared because this didn't go like he expected it to.

That's interesting.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I will assess Ray Allen the way I see fit the same way you have the "gall" to insult the rest of us. I'm not saying what he has done is lackluster or to be scoffed at, but is it really that bad to think he could do more? Is it all that terrible?

Yes. I'm not a fan of ridiculous expectations.