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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    Yes he was Sengun was abusing him in the post all night, he's a great defender but him being 7'4 180 pounds presents some flaws where he struggles against certain post scoring bigs who can bully his skinny frame
    Watch the video you posted. Wembanyama is trying to help on a few plays but is not the primary defender well over half of those possessions.

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    He should in theory but nothing is certain. Draymond's only 6'5.75" barefoot and he's one of the most impactful defenders ever. Victor's off to a good start. We'll see what happens.
    Yeah Draymond has a very good build for defense. Low base with super long arms. Cant get bullied off a spot but can still contest effectively.

    I agree Flagg has impressive thiccness for a kid that's 6'8 at 17 years old. But it's not a Draymond center of gravity. And he doesnt have Bam's reach, let alone guys like Yama and Porzingis and Chet. So he's kind of in between.

    As others have said, he probably aligns more as a chasedown/help protector, a la Pippen or Kirilenko, rather than a paint-stationed defensive 5. I dont see him being used on defense the way Anthony Davis is.

    Often times people assume a high school prospect has tons of room to grow, literally and figuratively. Which is sometimes true. But sometimes they just peak earlier and stay there. Flagg is physically about what Jason Tatum is currently. Which is why Flagg's a more dominant high school player, cuz hes already built like an NBA player.

    But that doesnt mean he's necessarily gonna keep progressing until hes the second coming of Wilt. He might just remain at a Jason Tatum level. A quality wing defender in the NBA, but not a Dikembe Mutombo rejection machine.

    Cant know until he gets there. But to me he looks like his floor is proportionally a lot higher than his ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Watch the video you posted. Wembanyama is trying to help on a few plays but is not the primary defender well over half of those possessions.
    I watched Sengun manhandle Wemby like he was a little boy on multiple possessions

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    Shawn James:

    - 6'7.75" barefoot height
    - 7'5" wingspan
    - 9'3" standing reach
    - 217 pounds

    About as impressive measurements as it gets for a guy Cooper's height range.

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    Go shove a teriyaki stick up your asshole, fat boy.
    This request was a bit odd but I honored the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    I watched Sengun manhandle Wemby like he was a little boy on multiple possessions
    He scored some buckets but most of it wasn't with Wemby as the main guy. And basically none of it was him muscling Wemby out of the way.

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    Take a look at 6'10'' Clifford Robinson, playing SF but also PF and event C.

    I think Coop is much better on defense, but that kind of long athletic, but yet sturdy, big wing is a good comparison imo.


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    Cooper with Sean Stewart, who like Flagg at Duke, is listed at 6'9" and was listed at 6'8" at times in high school. They look more or less the same height when you account for the hair and distance from the camera. Cooper's shoulders are higher but that's also because Sean has a longer neck.

    Cooper's stance continues to be wider compared to others. He has that wide body; he reminds me a little of LeBron in that regard.


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    In all my time as a fan I've never seen so much discussion about someone's shoulder height and defense for a kid who hasn't played a single game of college basketball to my knowledge.

    Anyone thinking this guy is the white KG is like people saying Chet is KD with better defense. Shit needs to calm down, this guy could be a defensive zero for all anyone knows. You know how many guys in NBA history have had his build and athletic ability and were not anything worth noting on defense? A hell of a lot.

    This isn't some unicorn 7'5 guy with agility like Wemby where the potential is obvious because it's a unique build of a player. Flagg blends in with basically any big SF/PF in NBA terms.

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    In all my time as a fan I've never seen so much discussion about someone's shoulder height and defense for a kid who hasn't played a single game of college basketball to my knowledge.

    Anyone thinking this guy is the white KG is like people saying Chet is KD with better defense. Shit needs to calm down, this guy could be a defensive zero for all anyone knows. You know how many guys in NBA history have had his build and athletic ability and were not anything worth noting on defense? A hell of a lot.

    This isn't some unicorn 7'5 guy with agility like Wemby where the potential is obvious because it's a unique build of a player. Flagg blends in with basically any big SF/PF in NBA terms.

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    I tried to read your post but that run-on sentence killed it for me. Learn to use periods to improve your syntax. It'll help you get whatever point you're attempting to make across.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin View Post
    I tried to read your post but that run-on sentence killed it for me. Learn to use periods to improve your syntax. It'll help you get whatever point you're attempting to make across.


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    Lebron is 6'8.5'' ish and Coop looks a bit taller. Also he looks same height as Bam.

    I'd probably start him at PF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbine View Post
    In all my time as a fan I've never seen so much discussion about someone's shoulder height and defense for a kid who hasn't played a single game of college basketball to my knowledge.

    Anyone thinking this guy is the white KG is like people saying Chet is KD with better defense. Shit needs to calm down, this guy could be a defensive zero for all anyone knows. You know how many guys in NBA history have had his build and athletic ability and were not anything worth noting on defense? A hell of a lot.

    This isn't some unicorn 7'5 guy with agility like Wemby where the potential is obvious because it's a unique build of a player. Flagg blends in with basically any big SF/PF in NBA terms.
    Nah, if you watch him the defense is something else. I don't think there's a possibility that he isn't a big impact player on that end (barring career-impacting injuries).

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