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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Trump does get real love from his MAGA base but no one else has any sympathy.
    I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

    The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.

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    Yeah but the average of polls do have him still stuck nationally at around the 45%-46% mark while she's around 48%-49%. Trump has yet to surpass the 47% mark in his previous 2 presidential elections. Trump needs to get to 48% because if she wins the national vote by 3 or more points, the spillover effect will also influence the swing states. Harris has the slight edge right now, but there's a gang of variables that can swing the election to either side (Trump's previous over performing the polls, Harris big lead with women). If there's a big turnout, that's usually not a good sign for the GOP because that means most people who don't vote, minorities, young people, new voters are voting, the lower turn out historically favored the GOP because older white people always vote...
    Hes over 47 now daz wat im sayin. That’s interesting.

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    If Harris' camp really thought she was doing well, they wouldn't be pressing for another debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

    The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.
    Let's be real, if you're an incel in this country, you're most likely simping for the Left. Nice try, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Huh, which polls? The average of polls are better for her now than at any point in this race, just go and check out 538, RCP or the Silver Bulletin. Even the betting odds websites have her a slight favorite rn, they had Trump as favorite pre debate...

    The debate really changed this race, he was the slight favorite before, she's now the slight favorite since. The way I see it, Trump has over performed in 2016 and 2020, are polls still using the same models or have they made the adjustments and are now weighing that Trump over performs the polls? We shall see on Nov 5... On the flip side, 2022 the Democrats over performed, due in large part because of the effects of Roe v Wade being struck down and that Red Wave never materialized. If women voters turn out in big numbers (Harris has a huge lead with women vs Trump), then that spells bad news for MAGA. If Trump loses, it will be definitely be because of the women vote.

    Grab your popcorn, fellas.
    CNN reporting that it's currently tied

    https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838...94JthzXGQ&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Let's be real, if you're an incel in this country, you're most likely simping for the Left. Nice try, pal.
    Incels come in all different shapes, sizes and political ideologues but most of the ones I've read about are incels who are alt-right hardcore Trumpers who hate women, that's the classic incel. The left produces those weird blue haired Antifas who also can't get puzzy but they tend to put women on a pedestal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    CNN reporting that it's currently tied

    https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838...94JthzXGQ&s=19
    Interesting but I've seen enough videos about polling that you really can't take one poll as be all, end all but the aggregate of polls are more accurate than taking one poll at face value.

    It's close, no doubt about it, gonna come down to whose operation can get more of their voters to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania will be flips for Trump which would give him 278 electoral votes and the win. And for good measure, I think he'll flip Arizona too. Which will get him to 289. She is not polling anywhere near where Biden was polling in 2020. She is closer to Hillary in 2016 who finished with 48% of the vote and only had 227 electoral votes.
    Sorry Fat Boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Interesting but I've seen enough videos about polling that you really can't take one poll as be all, end all but the aggregate of polls are more accurate than taking one poll at face value.

    It's close, no doubt about it, gonna come down to whose operation can get more of their voters to vote.
    I get where you're coming from... just thought I'd post a poll that CNN put up cause obviously they have no reason to be bias against Harris.

    Here's another one from Quinnipiac showing Trump ahead.
    https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838...axWgXhUIg&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo View Post
    I get where you're coming from... just thought I'd post a poll that CNN put up cause obviously they have no reason to be bias against Harris.

    Here's another one from Quinnipiac showing Trump ahead.
    https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838...axWgXhUIg&s=19
    https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1838658492174913556

    What about that one that same account just threw out an hour ago?


    That is why you have to look at the average of all of them:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...2024/national/


    But really even that is meaningless, you have to look at the swing states which are a virtual tie right now.

    Nate Silver has Harris ahead by a hair, and Allan Lichtman who is famous for predicting elections has also officially predicted Harris.

    I wouldn't be surprised either way, I'm just pointing out the same thing TheMan is saying, one poll by itself doesn't mean much.

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    The first post I quoted from TheMan was because he made it sound as if things were looking great for Harris since the debate, but it doesn't really. It was a very minor push if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

    The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.
    You genuinely believe there are more "incels" in MAGA than on the left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green View Post
    Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.

    Trump has this guy COOKED i tell you

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