How come Jordan never asked to Play with an Established Superstar?

[Roundball_Rock]

Gervin was past his prime but still an effective player. He was averaging 18 PPG when MJ was out, a big reason the Bulls had the 8th ranked offense that year despite MJ playing only 17 games and 25 MPG. If that had a schmo replacing MJ they wouldn't have had that level of offensive success with "just" Woolridge, especially since Daintley got hurt and played only 35 games.

In other words, they were down their #1 and #3 options from 85' and still had the 8th best offense (the team sucked but that was due to having a poor defense). Gervin was an important reason why.

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Because Pippen and Grant were drafted in 1987. Both top 5 pick level talents.

[Shooter]

A previous poster just posted a few quotes that claim MJ tried to play a little GM

but there's even MORE quotes that MJ built pippen, and pippen wouldn't be as good without him.. quotes from Scottie himself, Horace, Phil, Krause - all clearly stating that MJ molded pippen.. this reality is more clear-cut and common knowledge, with far more documentation than a few unsubstantiated quotes from Sam Smith's book about MJ GM'ing.. the quotes about MJ molding pippen are on tape

So keep deluding yourself about the game; everything that happens in the NBA must shock you, given your apparent misperceptions about the game

And how do we know that MJ didn't help Hamilton, who first started playing well next to MJ?.. but the reality is that MJ was no longer the best when he was a wizard, so you can't expect him to elevate teams like he used to - AND YET HE STILL DID - he led the wizards to 18 more wins and almost made playoffs - that's far better than Lebron's debacle this year

This guy is so distraught. We have a thread discussing MJ and he has to chime in with Lebron. Just admit he is Co-Goat already sheesh. Everyone has it as MJ LBJ Kareem but you want to spin it otherwise.

[Round Mound]

Not only that, MJ fought against trading Pippen--under the threat of retiring if that happened. When Pippen finally left, MJ actually did retire. It is a myth he didn't want any help. If he didn't, he had a perfect opportunity to win without a superstar as the reigning MVP in 99', no?

He could have played with another all star etc but he chose to play ONLY with Pippen. The only other unselfish superstar who would sacrifice stats and accolades for the benefit of the team to win. MJ made Pippen tougher but he certainly did not make Pippen the best passer, creator and playmaker at the SF spot in the 90's. Neither did he make him one of the best coast to coast, open court finisher and dunker etc Defensively they made each other great. MJ had the best 2nd option in the league in the 90's. Fact!

[Roundball_Rock]

He could have played with another all star etc but he chose to play ONLY with Pippen. The only other unselfish superstar who would sacrifice stats and accolades for the benefit of the team to win. MJ made Pippen tougher but he certainly did not make Pippen the best passer, creator and playmaker at the SF spot in the 90's. Neither did he make him one of the best coast to coast, open court finisher and dunker etc Defensively they made each other great. MJ had the best 2nd option in the league in the 90's. Fact!

Amen.

[Axe]

He could have played with another all star etc but he chose to play ONLY with Pippen. The only other unselfish superstar who would sacrifice stats and accolades for the benefit of the team to win. MJ made Pippen tougher but he certainly did not make Pippen the best passer, creator and playmaker at the SF spot in the 90's. Neither did he make him one of the best coast to coast, open court finisher and dunker etc Defensively they made each other great. MJ had the best 2nd option in the league in the 90's. Fact!

Surely, pippen is very valuable to the bulls dynasty. And also one of the very few players from the said team who's also part of the two three-peats. But jerry krause was a jerk for not giving him what he truly deserves; a higher pay.