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Old 10-19-2019, 11:08 PM   #166
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https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-...from-utah-jazz

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Since arriving in Utah, Quin Snyder has developed a culture of player development and improvement. He has led the Jazz to a 227-183 record which is impressive considering his first season started the year after Utah had one of its worst seasons in franchise history. He helped develop Rudy Gobert into a defensive player of the year winner. He coached Gordon Hayward into an All-Star. He helped Derrick Favors in his transition from power forward to center and through injuries. One of his assistants was even hired as a head coach in Phoenix, Igor Kokoskov. He is credited with polishing diamond in the rough prospects like Joe Ingles and Royce O’Neale.

Yeah he deserves the credit for what Rudy has done. They have been one of the worst teams in the league without Rudy. Hayward is no all-star. Favors and Kanter might still be going at it!

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Utah Jazz Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations Dennis Lindsey (can we work on a more succinct title than that one, please Utah?) has spoken many times how when he was in San Antonio they emulated what the Jazz did during the 90s. Whether it was keeping a consistent core with Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili or making the coach a staple in the organization with Greg Popovich. Since arriving on the scene in Utah, Lindsey has emulated San Antonio which means that Utah just got back to basics. They found their coach in Quin Snyder and their core in Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert. Now they’re committed being patient and let time get results.

same philosophy of patience got Stockton and Malone what? Going on 5 years since Rudy emerged. You can't waste years like that

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I woulda waited until the end of the yr.with this talent it should of been prove it type yr. This will probably be the most talented team he has and if he can’t get us to the wcf I would of looked elsewhere

Posted by martin84 on Oct 19, 2019 | 3:30 PM

Yep let's see how good he really is. After the thin bench he's certainy my biggest concern

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I maybe in the minority here but if he doesn’t get it done this yr I don’t think he ever will. The clippers maybe the only other team in the west that has a complete roster besides us

Posted by martin84 on Oct 19, 2019 | 6:24 PM

This year and next and than Rudy, Donovan, Conley, Ingles have to be paid. That's why you don't waste years. They may have won it last year if they'd got Conley who knows

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QS is better than all of those coaches in my opinion. He’s done more with less.

Posted by Karl Stalone 32 on Oct 19, 2019 | 6:37 PM

I'd say Rivers has had less the past two years for sure

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You probably would have fired Sloan after the Jazz got bounced by the Sonics in '96
Posted by Mychal Lowman on Oct 19, 2019 | 7:56 PM

When they went from 1st to 3rd the first time with two HOFers he should have been gone for sure.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:13 AM   #167
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But with the Jazz you’re seeing everything fall into place in every facet you need it to to have the possibility of a championship. Whether it’s team chemistry, coaching, talent or players embracing their role on the team.

The bench is still a question mark as is coty

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Finally, regarding things outside of the Jazz, things have lined up nicely for a possible title run. There isn’t an unbeatable juggernaut like the Golden State Warriors standing in the way. There are teams like the Clippers who will be an incredibly tough out for anyone in the league, but no one considers them unbeatable like the Warriors have seemed the last few seasons with Kevin Durant.

the unbeatable juggernaut that lost and should have the year before as well
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:34 PM   #168
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Erik Horne: Billy Donovan said Andre Roberson went through contact practice today. No determination on if he’ll be available for the regular-season opener at Utah. – via Twitter ErikHorneOK
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:13 PM   #169
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Tony Jones: The Jazz have waived Isaac Haas and Mike Scott. Both will play for the SLC Stars. Utah still has to trim its roster by one to get down to 15. Jarrell Brantley and Justin Wright-Foreman will be two-way players – via Twitter Tjonesonthenba

Kidd and Howard mus be making it a tough decision or they are looking elsewhere still?
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:09 PM   #170
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James Ham: The Kings have officially waived Hollis Thompson and Tyler Ulis. Roster is now down to 15 players. – via Twitter James_HamNBCS

Thompson is pretty good
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:19 PM   #171
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https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/20/2...gs-nba-journey

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“My freshman year, I averaged 12 points and I was out of shape. I was overweight,” he recalled. He was listed at 6-8 and 260 pounds.

wow I guess he's un better shape now than I thought

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“In this organization, if you defend then you’re going to get time on the floor,” Niang said. “We have guys that can score the ball; this is a way you can stick out and separate yourself. It’s hard and a lot of people don’t want to do it, so if you can find someone willing to do it, that’s how you get your time (on the court).”

let's hope you do enough to pleases coty because you are one of their best offensive players for sure
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:27 PM   #172
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The other hypothetical is they could cut both and go after another player. David J. Smith pointed this out the yesterday on Twitter. Back in 2014, the Utah Jazz cut Carrick Felix when some scrub named Joe Ingles became available. Crazier things have happened.

there's some good players available now and with their lack of depth I'd think they'd be looking that way. May be looking to see if they get a waiver claim on someone before deciding on the two left

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If I were going to give someone the edge, it would be William Howard. He looks like diamond in the rough type player. He’s been a plus player every time he’s been on the court and he’s knocking down 38% of his shots from outside. He’s averaging an absurd 0.7 blocks and 0.7 steals in only 11.5 minutes a game. He also is two years younger than Stanton Kidd. If Utah does decide to bring 15 on their main roster, William Howard seems to be the guy to stick around.

sounds like Howard could go to the Stars and Kidd can't for whatever reason so they might be able to keep both in town that way

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made sense for Hounston maybe not for the Jazz so much. A vet big would be my choice

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Faried is who he is, Howard can be developed into something
so Howard

Posted by jjrosk on Oct 20, 2019 | 5:05 PM

The problem is they have 5 guys developing and 10 rotation players maybe 11 if Exum is finally done developing and gets the green light to play
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:28 PM   #173
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might be nice just for Halloween. Need some different colors than orange though
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:43 PM   #174
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https://thejnotes.com/2019/10/20/uta...to-excellence/

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In short, in head coach Jerry Sloan, the Jazz were getting excellence.

Maybe but you got to wonder what they might have done with others

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Unfortunately, following Sloan’s abrupt resignation, turbulent times followed for Jazz fans. No disrespect to his successor, Tyrone Corbin, but the Jazz completely failed to recapture the success they had once been so accustomed to. Corbin led the Jazz to just one playoff appearance, a quick sweep at the hands of the San Antonio Spurs.

They traded his best player shortly after he took over and he was left to build around a black hole who never made sense in the first place. Made the playoffs the next year and just missed it the next year before they tanked in his final year. He never really had a chance but I'd say he did a lot considering

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In other words, based on Utah’s trajectory since Quin Snyder’s arrival to the team, it’s clear that they have yet again committed to excellence.

we'll see now. No more excuses

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Snyder has once again established a culture of winning in Salt Lake City, and it’s reflected in all the Jazz do on the court. From hard-nosed defense to a commitment to perfection in a challenging offensive scheme, the Jazz have turned themselves into a consistent force to be reckoned with under Snyder.

thank you Rudy

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In other words, keeping Snyder around long-term is obviously a great move across the board. His players are thrilled and fans should be as well, especially seeing how he turned the team around and continues to help them grow.

thanks Rudy!
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Old 10-21-2019, 04:03 PM   #175
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Shams Charania: Minnesota has waived guard Ty Wallace, league sources tell @The Athletic @Stadium. – via Twitter ShamsCharania

better than Exum
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:10 PM   #176
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Eric Walden: Jazz are announcing that they’re renewing their jersey patch sponsorship with Qualtrics. New deal runs through 2022-23 season. – via Twitter tribjazz
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:15 PM   #177
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Andy Larsen: Jazz have indeed waived William Howard, meaning Stanton Kidd is Jazz’s 15th man. As previously noted, he has a $250K guarantee amount. – via Twitter andyblarsen

Liked Howard myself and others available even more. We'll see. Howard maybe to the Stars it sounds like?
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:33 PM   #178
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Of most significant note, Donovan Mitchell, Royce O’Neale, Emmanuel Mudiay, Nigel Williams-Goss and Justin Wright-Foreman all “shrunk” two inches compared to the training camp roster released last month. Mitchell is now listed at 6-1, O’Neale 6-4 and Williams-Goss 6 feet (heights are without shoes).

6'4" PF! Our Charles Barkley. Would rather have the wingspans and standing reaches which is what really matters. Not sure what Mudiay is but the others are between 6'7 and 6'10 I believe

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Dante Exum has by far the biggest weight differential compared to the training camp roster. He is now listed at 214 pounds, up from the 190 listing last month.

He looked bigger. Can he carry that weight without getting hurt?
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:48 PM   #179
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All In: Why the Utah Jazz felt now was the time to shake things up — and how they went about it

the question is why did they ever go back to Favors and trade for Rubio and resign Dante?

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The Jazz traded a popular nine-year veteran forward, a two-year starting point guard, their top reserve off the bench along with a promising rookie to get a top-notch point guard. Then they ventured into the free-agent market to pick up a quartet of veteran players and added a couple of draft picks.

Allen wasn't that promising

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The Jazz basically started over after the 2012-13 season when they let Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson leave for free agency without any compensation, beginning a rebuild around rising star Gordon Hayward. The following year they got even younger, letting starters Marvin Williams and Richard Jefferson move on.

At the time it was considered Favors and Hayward's team. Neither were close to rising stars though. You forgot Demarre. Should have kept him and Millsap

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After their success that year, the Jazz brought back most of their top players, at least tried to, as Hayward and Hill both left for free agency. Otherwise, all of the mainline players returned, including Gobert, Ingles, Johnson, Exum, Derrick Favors, Rodney Hood, Alec Burks, and Raul Neto. They also added a dynamic rookie in Mitchell, who after being an undistinguished 13th overall pick, became the team’s leading scorer and finished second in the rookie of the year voting.

didn't try to bring back Hill

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Following a successful 2017-18 season when they knocked off Oklahoma CIty before losing to Houston in the Western Conference semifinals, the Jazz came back with the most intact roster in the NBA. The Jazz brought back 14 of 15 their players who finished the previous season with the only change being rookie Grayson Allen replacing Jonas Jerebko, who wasn’t re-signed.

bring back the same guys that got smoked!

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At the trading deadline there were all kinds of rumors flying that the Jazz were going to trade Favors or try to acquire Conley from Memphis. But the deadline came and went with the Jazz standing pat — again.

Dante!

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The Jazz targeted several free agents, a prime one being Nikola Mirotic, but those plans fell through when he decided to go back to play in Europe.

dodged a bullet there!


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The floodgates opened on July 15, when Utah signed Bogdanovic, outbidding Indiana, and followed with three more signings five days later as Green, Davis and Mudiay all inked contracts with the Jazz.

not sure they necessarily outbid for Bojan. He wanted to be here. Pacers might have given him that money or even more it sounds like

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Perhaps that’s why they’ve had little success on the winning ledger in preseason games with four straight losses after an opening win over a team from Australia.

maybe because it was pre season. They best the Pelicans for 3 quarters before the Stars took over

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This could be a make-or-break year for Exum, who has shown flashes during his five years in a Jazz uniform, but has never been able to put together a full uninjured season since his rookie season.

another make or break it year! Might be true this time? Have to pay O'Neale next summer and Oni is already better
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:55 PM   #180
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The Utah Jazz released their media guide which most likely has the updated height measurements of every player according to the NBA’s new mandate to have up to date height measurements of every NBA player. Unfortunately—or fortunately, depending on how you look at it—there were no surprises. Dante Exum is still 6’6. Mike Conley is still 6’1. Donovan Mitchell is still 6’3. The only person who had shrunk or grown was Tony Bradley who was drafted by the Utah Jazz when he was 19.

Looks like Bradley may have grown in the past year if you assume about 2 inches with shoes. Has he stopped growing finally? Gobert is certainly taller than we thought
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