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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Players considered better than Kobe have led more talent than he had those years to worse records...
Is this a shot at Kareem?
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Cos Kobe had no 3 referees and David stern to help, like lebron.
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by bobopenguin
Cos Kobe had no 3 referees and David stern to help, like lebron.
Did you really just bring up Lebron in a thread that has absolutely NOTHING to do with him?
So obsessed
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by Bankaii
Did you really just bring up Lebron in a thread that has absolutely NOTHING to do with him?
So obsessed
cumguzzy is the one who brought up bron in the 2nd post of the topic
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
only losers respect bran
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LeBron James fan
Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
West was stacked, every playoff team was well over the .500 mark, meanwhile the East at the time was still being played at a house league level.
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Kobe didn't have the it factor.
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by warriorfan
cumguzzy is the one who brought up bron in the 2nd post of the topic
get them!
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
The main reason was because there wasn't enough time. Pau came in the third season of Kobe being the man, leading to his team to the best record in the west before pau even got there . He got beat by the suns and caught them twice in a row. That team was no joke.
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Lol. Shaq w/o Kobe= 1 ring.
Pau w/o Kobe= 0 rings.
Ariza/bynum/Odom w/o Kobe= 0 rings
Ray w/o Bron= 1 ring
Wade w/o= 1 ring
Basically a trend. The "most dominant player ever" had the most successful only when paired with Kobe Bryant.
Ray Allen, one of the greatest shooters ever, found success before Bron.
Wade, the 3rd/4th best SG ever found success long before Bron.
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by scuzzy
Interesting, One more question
Did Kobe start his first two seasons?
Nope. He wasn't good enough. He was a bench player/scrub.
Even after that, as a starter in 1999 he had 3 airballs in game winning attempts against Utah as the Lakers got spanked.
The following year, he shot 36%fg from the field in the finals vs Indiana including a horrific 4-20 shooting game for 8 points.
Kobe during his first 4 years wasn't even worth discussing.
Lethick in his 4th year lead d-leaguers to the finals almost single handedly
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by 34-24 Footwork
Lol. Shaq w/o Kobe= 1 ring.
Pau w/o Kobe= 0 rings.
Ariza/bynum/Odom w/o Kobe= 0 rings
Ray w/o Bron= 1 ring
Wade w/o= 1 ring
Basically a trend. The "most dominant player ever" had the most successful only when paired with Kobe Bryant.
Ray Allen, one of the greatest shooters ever, found success before Bron.
Wade, the 3rd/4th best SG ever found success long before Bron.
It could also be he spent the majority of his prime, including his peak seasons, when he was teammates with Kobe
And the Ray Allen example is stupid considering he won his title as 3rd option
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Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
Nope. He wasn't good enough. He was a bench player/scrub.
Even after that, as a starter in 1999 he had 3 airballs in game winning attempts against Utah as the Lakers got spanked.
The following year, he shot 36%fg from the field in the finals vs Indiana including a horrific 4-20 shooting game for 8 points.
Kobe during his first 4 years wasn't even worth discussing.
Lethick in his 4th year lead d-leaguers to the finals almost single handedly
Jesus
Thanks for the info
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Yellow King
Re: Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
It could also be he spent the majority of his prime, including his peak seasons, when he was teammates with Kobe
And the Ray Allen example is stupid considering he won his title as 3rd option
Or the fact that Shaq did have deep playoff success prior to being paired with Kobe and afterwards also
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