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Titles are overrated
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
"That's only when they're in the same ****ing level."
Nah. Read up on players in practice. Scrubs can play stars to a standstill one on one. Especially with a size advantage. Scott Burrell lost to Jordan 7-6 once after Ron Harper(the ref) called Scott for a travel on game point and gave it back to MJ who won.
A lot of that tier shit goes out the window one on one.
Yao was giving guys near his size the business in the post. What is Kobe gonna do if its make it take it and Yao scores first? Blocking a shot in a game doesnt mean hes gonna do it one on one. Muggsy blocked Ewing in a game. Nate got Shaq and Yao. wouldnt help one on one.
Kobe cant guard him well....he cant guard Kobe when Kobe steps out. Anyone could win.
That big a size advantage with someone who knows how to use it?
There is a reason when the NBA did a one on one competition in the 70s Bob Lanier won and not a guard.
A guards talent only matters so much when hes giving up 6 inches and 70 pounds in the post.
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College superstar
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
How many of those things do u see possible in a 1vs1, seeing how they were mostly help defence by kobe and late rotation by Yao, maybe that second to last one where they Yao with 5 fouls already..
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Decent playground baller
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
"That's only when they're in the same ****ing level."
Nah. Read up on players in practice. Scrubs can play stars to a standstill one on one. Especially with a size advantage. Scott Burrell lost to Jordan 7-6 once after Ron Harper(the ref) called Scott for a travel on game point and gave it back to MJ who won.
A lot of that tier shit goes out the window one on one.
Yao was giving guys near his size the business in the post. What is Kobe gonna do if its make it take it and Yao scores first? Blocking a shot in a game doesnt mean hes gonna do it one on one. Muggsy blocked Ewing in a game. Nate got Shaq and Yao. wouldnt help one on one.
Kobe cant guard him well....he cant guard Kobe when Kobe steps out. Anyone could win.
That big a size advantage with someone who knows how to use it?
There is a reason when the NBA did a one on one competition in the 70s Bob Lanier won and not a guard.
A guards talent only matters so much when hes giving up 6 inches and 70 pounds in the post.
I get it. Size matters a lot. Considering the kind of caliber player Yao was too, he'd probably give Kobe a good fight. But I'd still give an edge to Kobe even if it's a 1v1. I can see Kobe using his savvy and strength on defense to strip the ball away from Yao.
But ... this is assuming they start at top of the key. Kobe would do everything to stop him from getting closer to the basket. And let's be real Yao was mobile for his size but still slow as **** compare to great guards like Kobe that Kobe was able to dunk over him, block him, layups around him during their careers.
If they start the game getting ball from the post, I'd say Yao wins like 7 out of 10 times or even more. But that ain't a real 1v1 that's a post-up game practice drill where you practice shots at the spots you want to be at.
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I brick nerf balls
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Originally Posted by Kvnzhangyay
Brook Lopez wouldn't but people like Cousins would (as in able to overpower)
Jordan would beat him 21-2
Jordan would school him so bad he would never step foot on another court. He'd move to outer Bhutan and disappear in the wilderness.
And if you'd ever been there you'd know what wilderness really is.
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The Future Goat
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Lol what Yao is taking this shit. He has a foot and 100 pound size advantage with post moves and a sweet j. This isn't Cole Aldrich.
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NBA Legend
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Titles are overrated
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Yao wouldnt need to get that close to the basket.....not that he couldnt. He spent his entire life playing guys half his size and learning not to get stripped. Hes not gonna just get the ball taken away often one on one because it happens in games with 5 defenders on the floor.
All time great wings get beaten or played to a standstill by all manner of bigmen. Bill Walton and Bird used to play in Boston and Walton had been injured and washed up for like 7 years when he got there. He beat Bird at times....but Bird beat him too.
The size is the equalizer. And yao had too much of it.
A giant who can shoot and make hooks over both shoulders?
Yao could play with anyone on on one. Anyone ever. Kobe....Jordan....Isiah Thomas....
They have a huge edge in ways...so does he. Hes gonna win some and lose some.
And forget the size even. All nba players can play one on one. I mentioned Scott Burrell going to game point with Jordan...
Chris Webber tells a story of a long retired, gut having, washed up ex player Terry Duerod absolutly giving him the business when he was young and maybe the best athlete anyone had ever seen at the 4. Terry had been out of the nba since 1983. And he was busting young Chris Webbers ass in front of everyone.
NBA players we dont even know are beasts one on one.
Yao? 7'5'' with range and soft hands?
Yao would compete with everyone from Wilt Chamberlain and Shaq to Jordan and Kobe on on one.
And a lot worse bigmen than him would too.
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Local High School Star
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Originally Posted by TripleA
Lol what Yao is taking this shit. He has a foot and 100 pound size advantage with post moves and a sweet j. This isn't Cole Aldrich.
Pretty much this and everything KBlaze has been saying.
All Yao has to do is back Kobe down to get to the spot he wants, then use his body to create some space, and take a nice short j, a hook over either shoulder, or just lay it in after Kobe inevitably is forced to gamble/overextend for a steal/strip. All of these shots are far higher percentage than any shots Kobe will get from the perimeter. Yao can just back off a bit and wait for Kobe to miss. Kobe would actually have to take the ball away from Yao. Consistently.
This truly is simply a percentages game, and Yao has huge advantages. Kobe may take a game or two if they played ten times and Kobe got hot, but otherwise Yao wins easily. Some people here are acting like Yao hasn't spent his whole life backing down smaller players, and seem to be forgetting that he had a nice face up game within 15 feet, great hands, and good footwork.
A more interesting matchup would be Kobe vs someone like Greg Ostertag. Greg has a huge size advantage, but he has no jumper, no footwork, and awful hands (even at 7'2, he couldn't palm a basketball). That would be more of a size vs skill matchup. Yao vs Kobe is a size and skills vs skills matchup
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Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
if you're 6ft tall 180lb, and you're playing against the best 4 ft 11" 110lb midget in your area, what are you gonna do? you're gonna bust his midget ass up and teach him the meaning of size advantage. the question is not "can you stop him?" the question is "can he stop YOU?"
no way kobe has any way chance of defending yao in one-on-one with that kind of ridiculous size advantage.
and yao is not just all size and nothing. yao has NBA game and NBA-level shooting touch, enough to drop 25 and 10. he used to shoot technicial free throws for the houston rockets. he'd shit on kobe easily.
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Form is temporary
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
People thinking that Yao couldn't hit a shot outside 10 feet.
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Local High School Star
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Originally Posted by DCL
if you're 6ft tall 180lb, and you're playing against the best 4 ft 11" 110lb midget in your area, what are you gonna do? you're gonna bust his midget ass up and teach him the meaning of size advantage. the question is not "can you stop him?" the question is "can he stop YOU?"
Yep.
Have you guys seen those 1 on 1 challenges that Scalabrine did in the Boston area? Admittedly, they pit (former) NBA talent against non-NBA talent, but it provides a fairly decent picture of what every NBA big would do in a 1 on 1 situation. You just can't consistently stop size if you yourself don't have it. And Kobe wouldn't have it here.
And Yao wasn't your garden variety big man. He was a multiple All Star and always one of the 3 best centers in the league when healthy.
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Let's Talks Numbers
Re: Who wins in a 1 on 1, Yao Ming or Kobe
Yeah....sorta reminds me of when Kobe played Bow Wow one vs one. Everyone thought kobe would just take jumpers.....lol.
Naaaa...n1gga.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDh2U1hVrw
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