Kobe and Shaqs Finals averages 2000-2002

[HOoopCityJones]

Jordan won MVPs, DPOY, scoring titles, and led a shitty Bulls team to the ECF in a tough Eastern Conference before Phil took over.

Yet never won anything that's worth a shit until Pippen and Phil came. We could play this biased game of "logic" all day.

[AlphaWolf24]

The Finals?.....vs The weak east?

games were over at halftime....Shaq was dominating vs weak azz european centers...

real Finals were against the West.( where Kobe was the best player especially against the Spurs/2nd GOAT team of the 00's)


and besides , Shaq is a beast...it's not like Kobe was being outplayed by Cedric Maxwell or JJ barea.

[pauk]

What is there to discuss, Shaq was the man/best player of that team, he carried those guys & Kobe for those 3 championships, Kobe gave his best effort in the 3rd championship, he was great, but yes Kobe got literally carried to at least 2 championships, in the 1st one he averaged something like 12-14? ppg, missing a game, playing injured, shooting horrible, turning over, whatever... it did NOT matter due to Shaq as they still won..... and i dont understand why Kobe fans find that insulting... Shaq is arguably the most dominant talent ever & was in his prime, meanwhile Kobe simply wasnt that good early in his career... He came into the league as a benchwarmer his 1st season battling for just minutes averaging 8 ppg, next season he battled for being 6th man, next seasons he battled for a starting spot, thats just some month before Lakers won their championship against Pacers where Kobe was absolutely horrible or simply playing by his standards baring the circumstances... he simply wasnt that good early on...

[TheMarkMadsen]

What is there to discuss, Shaq was the man/best player of that team, he carried those guys & Kobe for those 3 championships, Kobe gave his best effort in the 3rd championship, he was great, but yes Kobe got literally carried to at least 2 championships, in the 1st one he averaged something like 12-14? ppg, missing a game, playing injured, shooting horrible, turning over, whatever... it did NOT matter due to Shaq as they still won..... and i dont understand why Kobe fans find that insulting... Shaq is arguably the most dominant talent ever & was in his prime, meanwhile Kobe simply wasnt that good early in his career... He came into the league as a benchwarmer his 1st season battling for just minutes averaging 8 ppg, next season he battled for being 6th man, next seasons he battled for a starting spot, thats just some month before Lakers won their championship against Pacers where Kobe was absolutely horrible or simply playing by his standards baring the circumstances... he simply wasnt that good early on...

2001 = 29/7/6

2002 = 27/6/5

ok Pauk

[Doranku]

What is there to discuss, Shaq was the man/best player of that team, he carried those guys & Kobe for those 3 championships, Kobe gave his best effort in the 3rd championship, he was great, but yes Kobe got literally carried to at least 2 championships, in the 1st one he averaged something like 12-14? ppg, missing a game, playing injured, shooting horrible, turning over, whatever... it did NOT matter due to Shaq as they still won..... and i dont understand why Kobe fans find that insulting... Shaq is arguably the most dominant talent ever & was in his prime, meanwhile Kobe simply wasnt that good early in his career... He came into the league as a benchwarmer his 1st season battling for just minutes averaging 8 ppg, next season he battled for being 6th man, next seasons he battled for a starting spot, thats just some month before Lakers won their championship against Pacers where Kobe was absolutely horrible or simply playing by his standards baring the circumstances... he simply wasnt that good early on...

Kobe's first two finals (minus the game he got injured and played 9 minutes): 22/5/7 on 40% w/ 2.7 TOs

LeBron's first two finals: 19/7/8 on 42% w/ 4.7 TOs


Bron's numbers are hardly any better (if at all) despite being in the heart of his prime for 6/10 games. Pitiful.

[Mr Feeny]

Finals averages


Shaq - 35.9 points 15.2 rebounds 59.5% FG

Kobe - 22.0 points 6.1 rebounds 42.5% FG





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If these are accurate, then it's pretty cringe-worthy hearing Kobe fans attempt to give him credit for any of those rings