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    Default Re: Players that gave no sign of being virtually stoppable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Face
    Let's be honest, his role didn't really change, it was due to the fact that the league got better. Back in early 60s when he was putting up big scoring numbers, it was against white boy janitors whose side job was to play in the NBA. You'll notice that his stats dipped every consecutive season. Reason, good centers were actually coming to the game slowly. When he faced legit bigmen his stats dropped. It wasn't just role change, it was a product of the competion becoming good, no more pizza delivery boys playing as undersized centers. If he's really that good, his stats in the post season especially in the finals would look better. He's a choker who thrived in weak competion but was exposed after his compition got better. Every greats up their game in PO. Even a knownchoker like Lebron has better playoff stats than regular season. Wilt on the other hand, from 30ppg reg season, 22ppg playoffs, 18ppg finals... Damn!

    Wilt would be a second tier center in the golden era of bigs. Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson would aboslutely destroy him.

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    Default Re: Players that gave no sign of being virtually stoppable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Face
    Let's be honest, his role didn't really change, it was due to the fact that the league got better. Back in early 60s when he was putting up big scoring numbers, it was against white boy janitors whose side job was to play in the NBA. You'll notice that his stats dipped every consecutive season. Reason, good centers were actually coming to the game slowly. When he faced legit bigmen his stats dropped. It wasn't just role change, it was a product of the competion becoming good, no more pizza delivery boys playing as undersized centers. If he's really that good, his stats in the post season especially in the finals would look better. He's a choker who thrived in weak competion but was exposed after his compition got better. Every greats up their game in PO. Even a knownchoker like Lebron has better playoff stats than regular season. Wilt on the other hand, from 30ppg reg season, 22ppg playoffs, 18ppg finals... Damn!

    Wilt would be a second tier center in the golden era of bigs. Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson would aboslutely destroy him.


    A past-his-prime Chamberlain was LEADING the league in scoring in his first nine games of his 69-70 season, at 32.2 ppg on a .579 FG% (with 20.6 rpg.) He was well on his way to his 8th scoring title, his 10th FG% title, and his 12th rebounding title. And in his only game against Kareem, before he shredded his knee, he badly outplayed Abdul-Jabbar in every facet of the game.

    Oh, and in his 68-69 season, his incompetent coach had so restricted his offense, that he was averaging a then career low, 17.5 ppg at the mid-way point in the season. It was so bad that SI ran an article claiming that Wilt could no longer score, which hit the newstands on 1/27/69. Unfortunately for SI, Chamberlain hung a 60 point game on 1/26, and followed it up a few days later with a 66 point game. And in a span of 17 straight games, Chamberlain averaged 31 ppg. BTW, Kareem faced both those centers that Wilt hung 60+ games on, and his high game against each in his career H2H's with them... 41 points.

    So, here was a Chamberlain, past-his-prime, putting up a 32.2 ppg (again, on a .579 FG%), in the same season that Kareem would average 28.8 ppg on a .518. And a couple of years later Kareem hit his peak with a 34.8 ppg on a .577. Some 15 years later a 39 year old Kareem was routinely hanging 40+ point games on Hakeem and Ewing.

    Incidently, in his last two seasons, covering 11 straight H2H's with the 6-11 265 lb HOF Bob Lanier... 24 ppg on a .750 FG%. The same Lanier who would be a top center in the entire decade of the 70's.
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    Default Re: Players that gave no sign of being virtually stoppable.

    The major knocks on Shaq is that he never won a rebounding title, he hardly gave a damn about his weight, and he only won 1 MVP. It's crazy to think just how dominant he'd be with Jordan or Kobe's mindset far as work ethic goes, and the game being their TRUE passion. What's also crazy is despite all of that, Shaq is widely regarded as the MDE (his 2000 season is anyway).

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