Sir Charles or Kobe who is greater?

[Sir Charles]

[COLOR="Magenta"]Chuck was way more manly than Kobe. Kobe may end up having a better overall career though[/COLOR]

Kobe is Great but not even close to the TOP NBA GREATS..

[highwhey]

[QUOTE=Sir Charles][B]Obviously Sir Charles

By the way

[darabzarrabi]

Kobe is greater...just because Charles was a bigger beast doesn't make him a more accomplished player...it has to be Kobe and this is coming from someone that cant stand him

[C-Webb4]

Put an agngry Prime Barkley in this 2008 Lakers and the Lakers would have won the 2008 Championship with him as the MVP of the Whole League [/B]

I beg to differ, Sir. Subtract Kobe and add Barkley and they still wouldn't have been the better team.

C- Pau Gasol
PF- Charles Barkley
SF - Lamar Odom
SG - ?? Vujacic?
PG - Fisher

While it's true that a prime Barkley may have an advantage over KG or Perkins/Powe/whoever they put on him, what would stop them from using the same strategy which was doubling and trapping him.. I mean the way the Celtics D was configured, it was so that the best player (no matter who that player is) would be taken out of the game, and it worked to perfection. Barkley wouldn't have made them the 2008 NBA champions.

[Kobe4life]

hmmm kobe

[Killer_Instinct]

Well this was easy. Kobe.

[Sir Charles]

I beg to differ, Sir. Subtract Kobe and add Barkley and they still wouldn't have been the better team.

C- Pau Gasol
PF- Charles Barkley
SF - Lamar Odom
SG - ?? Vujacic?
PG - Fisher

While it's true that a prime Barkley may have an advantage over KG or Perkins/Powe/whoever they put on him, what would stop them from using the same strategy which was doubling and trapping him.. I mean the way the Celtics D was configured, it was so that the best player (no matter who that player is) would be taken out of the game, and it worked to perfection. Barkley wouldn't have made them the 2008 NBA champions.

Listen dude. Charles Barkley in his 20s and till around 33 was Unguardable and doubled teamed constantly (Garnett has never been doubled). Garnett would have no Chance to Stop Barkley nor any other dude in the frontline especially with the actual handchecking rules and even more if this man was pissed off:) . You should go watch when Charles was pissed in the 1993 play-offs and see for yourself.

With Charles you would not have only had an unstoppable scoring presence in the Paint and Off the Paint (because Charles could score from anywhere and in any way) but a rebounding manic and on both sides of the court, a PF that could handle the ball throw in assits and lead breaks like none in the NBA today which would favor the Lakers classical style

Finally with Charles leadhership and his agressive and competitive attitude you would have had the Celtics look like ***** cats and Charles would have lifted his other teamates games and confidence something Bryant can`t do because he is no Leader.

Gasol and Lamar would have easier shots in the paint do to double teaming on Charles plus be less tired to go for rebounds and defend themselves because Charles would take the scoring and rebounding load. Fisher and Vujacic would have even more chances to penetrate because Charles would be doubled teamed and they would also recieve better passes for easy jump shots not to mention escape for passes in the fast break do to Charles superior ball handling, speed with the ball and court Vistion unmatched by todays PFs.

[boozehound]

clearly charles. who are we gonna compare kb to next? whos better, stalin or kb?

[C-Webb4]

Simple response, if Prime Barkley was unguardable, and the best player in the league, then why doesn't he have any rings?

[Killer_Instinct]

Simple response, if Prime Barkley was unguardable, and the best player in the league, then why doesn't he have any rings?

[NY Comeback]

Simple response, if Prime Barkley was unguardable, and the best player in the league, then why doesn't he have any rings?

Cuz he never had Shaq.

[C-Webb4]

Cuz he never had Shaq.

Neither did MJ.

[Killer_Instinct]

Cuz he never had Shaq.

Everyone got to play with Shaq but Charles. That's pretty fucked up.

[C-Webb4]

I really don't understand the people who say that prime Barkley was the best player in the league and "unguardable" but also say that he would've needed a player like prime Shaq (who was one of the most unstoppable forces this league has ever seen). Do you realize that it's in a way disproving your own point?

[NY Comeback]

Neither did MJ.

And?

This thread is about Kobe, and Charles. If you wanna compare them about Rings and accomplishments or whatever, have your facts straight. Kobe got all three of his Rings as a second option behind Shaq. Minus Shaq, who knows how many Rings Kobe would have, if any at all. That being said, what specifically makes Kobe that much better than Barkley?