great Scottie Pippen interview about 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls

[Sir Charles]

The team with the most assits wins, period.

Some Basketball Laws:

LAW 1: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls) can Beat A Team that has: an "Average to Bad Offensive/Defensive Frontline" and an "Good, Average or Bad" Offensive/Defensisve Backcourt

= Most of the 1990s Teams the Bulls faced [/COLOR]

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LAW 2: [COLOR="red"] A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have A Hard Time Beating [COLOR="Blue"]A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" but with a "Bad Offensive Frontline" and Good "Offensive Backcourt"

= 1980s Pistons (owned the Bulls from 1984 to 1990) [/COLOR]


[COLOR="blue"]*With Adrian Dantley they would have had not a "Good Offensive Backcourt" but a "Great Offensive Backcourt". So that would have persented even more trouble for the Bulls...

...As it did from 1987 to 1989 :) [/COLOR]

LAW 3: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have even a harder time Beating A[COLOR="Navy"] Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" with an "Average to Good Offensive Frontline" and an "Average to Bad Offensive Backcourt"

= Early 1990s Knicks (took them To Game 7 in 1992)

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*The Knicks Just Needed an Offensive Weopon (apart from Ewing) in either one of their Frontline Forward Spots.:)[/COLOR]

LAW 4:[COLOR="Red"] "A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR]Most Probably Not Win Over A [COLOR="DarkRed"]Team that has: a "Good Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offense Frontline" with an "Average to Good Defensive Backcourt" and "A Great Offensive Backcourt"

=1980s Showtime Lakers. Especially the 1985 to 1987 Lakers with Kareem-Magic and Worthy together plus their Supporting Casts of Scott, Thompson, Cooper, Green, Rambis.[/COLOR]

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Finally....

LAW 5: [COLOR="red"]"A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] Has No No Chance [COLOR="DarkGreen"] In Beating A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offensive Frontline with "Good Offensive Backcourt" and an "Great Defensive Backcourt"

=1986 Celtics with McHale-Bird-Parish-Walton-Ainge-DJ-Kite-Wedman, Siesting.[/COLOR]

The only way fro the Bulls to try to win some games is quite simple:

Locate Pippen as the PG for Most of the Game and Kukoc at the SF for Most of the game. This way with Kukoc and Pippen both in you would have more Scoring Possibilites but then again with No Pippen in the SF spot = you would have a WEAKER DEFENSE for the Likes of Bird-McHale-Parish and Walton ([COLOR="DarkGreen"]Yes the Celtics Strenght = Frontline Offense and Defense[/COLOR]!).

If you put Harper in for Pippen as a PG and Pippen as the SF for Most of the Game you will

[COLOR="Blue"]1st- Loose Creative Possibilities to make the Frontline Offense Score and

2nd- Consume Pippen. Whom cannot asoume the role of trying to:

1st: Try to Stop: Larry Bird!
2nd: Become the Second Scoring Threat after Jordan,
3rd: Rebound over Bird-McHale-Parish-Walton and
4th: Create as a Point-Forward.

= Simply To much Load for Pip.[/COLOR]

Matchups

[COLOR="Blue"]Backcourt:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ: Jordan Would Own Danny Ainge Offensively but still would not prevent him from Scoring Outside Shots.

(JORDAN WINS!) [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge: Both will go at it with Harper having the edge in his Drives but then again this is Prime Ainge and Old Harper

(Ballanced Match Up)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]Frontline[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McHale vs Rodman : Rodman Would get Owned by a 1986 McHale Offensively and Defensively. Rodman will only Outrebound McHale but would Not Stop Him from Scoring Nor Score on Him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=rodmade01

Mchale: 22.5 PPG (57.9% FG), 8.8 RPG; 1.5 BPG vs Rodman.

This is counting stats from 1990-91 to 1992-93 = A 33 to 35 year old Mchale not a Prime 1985-86 McHale at age: 28!

(McHALE WINS!)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird vs Pippen-Kukoc. Bird would own both of them Offensively and Rebounding Wise. None will Prevent Bird from owning the Boards, Posting Up for his 12-15 Jumpers, Scoring in other ways and Making Great Passes for Parish-McHale-Walton or even spoting up DJ or Ainge for Open Shots after Pick & Rolls made by the Frontline.

Pippen will Challange Bird in the Perimeter but Bird always will do what he used to do against faster players. Just wait closer to his Frontline to assure rebounds waiting for Pippen to Shoot from the Outside, which = Pippen`s Not a Reliable Open Shooter.

Kukoc will Challange Bird in the Post but then then again Bird will have an easier time Offensively with Kukoc than with Pippen (because Pippen is obviously a better Defender).

Reminder***Bird owned Pippen from 1988 to 1992[/COLOR]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=pippesc01

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]But remember this time we are talking not about a 31 to 35 year old Bird but a Prime 23 to 29 year old Bird. And yes Before his injury in 1989

(BIRD WINS!)

Parish vs Bulls Center: Any Bull`s Center would get Owned by a 1986 Parish both Offensively and Defensively.

(PARISH WINS!)

Then agin if Rodman needs a Pounding, The Celtics will just put in Walton for a Twin Tower System with Parish and McHale, putting Bird as a SG for some minutes and then later put in 6`11 ft and 250 lbs Greg Kite = A Dennis Rodman like type agressive Paint Player that was famous for brawls. Not to mention the guy was a 9.3 R.P/36 Minutes. [/COLOR]


RESUME OF THE LAWS:

"A Great Frontline (Composed of 3 Players) Will Always Own a Good/Great Backcourt (Composed of 2 Players) " .

Examples:

[COLOR="Blue"]2008 Finals Lakers v.s Celtics Result = Same would happen to the 95-96 Bulls if they faced a 1985-86 Celtics[/COLOR]

* In the Case of the Bulls. The Bulls can only assure one spot in the Game Matchups of [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership by Jordan[/COLOR] = that is [COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ[/COLOR].

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge is a Ballanced Won.[/COLOR]

The Rest of the Matchups:

Bird vs Pippen: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird Wins[/COLOR]
McHale vs Rodman: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Mchale Wins[/COLOR]
Parish vs Bulls Center=[COLOR="DarkGreen"] Parish[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership![/COLOR]

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The 1995-96 Bulls Have "Very Little Chances" of Beating a 1984-85/1986-87 Lakers and

Pretty Much "No Chance" in Beating a 1985-86 Celtics (Greatest Team Ever)

[EricForman]

The 90s Bulls wouldn't have beaten the 80s Magic or Lakers.

But that doesn't prove Magic or Bird's superiority over Jordan in any way.

It just proves Bull's #2 through #12 was significantly weaker than the Celtics and Laker's #2 through #12.

Because make no mistake, the best player of all three teams is still Michael Jordan.

[Sir Charles]

The 90s Bulls wouldn't have beaten the 80s Magic or Lakers.

But that doesn't prove Magic or Bird's superiority over Jordan in any way.

It just proves Bull's #2 through #12 was significantly weaker than the Celtics and Laker's #2 through #12.

Because make no mistake, the best player of all three teams is still Michael Jordan.

Being a Better Player Has Nothing To do With Your Team Winning or Winning More than the Other Player...

Its a prooven fact (I have given enough evidence read at the top) that the 1995/96 Bulls have "Very Little Chance" of Beating the 1984-85/1986-87 Lakers, and Absoluetly "No Chance" in Beating the 1986-86 Celtics".

[EricForman]

Being a Better Player Has Nothing To do With Your Team Winning or Winning More than the Other Player...

Its a prooven fact (I have given enough evidence read at the top) that the 1995/96 Bulls have "Very Little Chance" of Beating the 1984-85/1986-87 Lakers, and Absoluetly "No Chance" in Beating the 1986-86 Celtics".

No wonder you're doing because your ass is confused.

Where did I say the Bull would win? I know the Bulls would probably lose to the Celtics or Lakers in a 7 game series. But I'm trying to say that's just cause Magic/Bird had such a stacked team.

I say that because most of the time this statement is bought up to somewhat downplay Jordan or hype up Magic.

[Soundwave]

Bulls in six over both the Celtics and Lakers.

The Bulls would put Pippen on Magic or Bird and that would completely disrupt their entire "run n' gun" offense and it would change the entire game. Jordan and Rodman would then be further create chaos on the defensive end.

The Celtics and Lakers both had problems versus Detroit and the Bulls were every bit as good defensively, probably even better because they were more athletic.

Dumars at 6'4 simply can't do the things Pippen at 6'7 could do defensively.

The Celtics interior defense was so good that it got shredded to 63 points by a 2nd year Michael Jordan on their own home floor. The Celtics wouldn't be able to do anything to stop Jordan. Or even Pippen IMO (he would get his 20+ too offsetting a lot of Bird's offense).

[EricForman]

Bulls in six over both the Celtics and Lakers.

The Bulls would put Pippen on Magic or Bird and that would completely disrupt their entire "run n' gun" offense and it would change the entire game. Jordan and Rodman would then be further create chaos on the defensive end.

The Celtics and Lakers both had problems versus Detroit and the Bulls were every bit as good defensively, probably even better because they were more athletic.

Dumars at 6'4 simply can't do the things Pippen at 6'7 could do defensively.

The Celtics interior defense was so good that it got shredded to 63 points by a 2nd year Michael Jordan on their own home floor. The Celtics wouldn't be able to do anything to stop Jordan. Or even Pippen IMO (he would get his 20+ too offsetting a lot of Bird's offense).

I think you're overrating Pip.

He's one of the greatest defenders, no doubt.

But at the end of the day, Magic and Bird are still MAgic and Bird. They wouldn't let Pip get in their way.

[Sir Charles]

Bulls in six over both the Celtics and Lakers.

The Bulls would put Pippen on Magic or Bird and that would completely disrupt their entire "run n' gun" offense and it would change the entire game. Jordan and Rodman would then be further create chaos on the defensive end.

The Celtics and Lakers both had problems versus Detroit and the Bulls were every bit as good defensively, probably even better because they were more athletic.

Dumars at 6'4 simply can't do the things Pippen at 6'7 could do defensively.

The Celtics interior defense was so good that it got shredded to 63 points by a 2nd year Michael Jordan on their own home floor. The Celtics wouldn't be able to do anything to stop Jordan. Or even Pippen IMO (he would get his 20+ too offsetting a lot of Bird's offense).

[COLOR="Black"]1984-85/1986-87 Lakers vs 1995-96 Bulls = Lakers in 7

1986-86 Celtics vs 1995-96 Bulls = Celtics in 6[/COLOR]

Read this and Learn Why:

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Some Basketball Laws:

LAW 1: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls) can Beat A Team that has: an "Average to Bad Offensive/Defensive Frontline" and an "Good, Average or Bad" Offensive/Defensisve Backcourt

= Most of the 1990s Teams the Bulls faced [/COLOR]

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LAW 2: [COLOR="red"] A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have A Hard Time Beating [COLOR="Blue"]A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" but with a "Bad Offensive Frontline" and Good "Offensive Backcourt"

= 1980s Pistons (owned the Bulls from 1984 to 1990) [/COLOR]


[COLOR="blue"]*With Adrian Dantley they would have had not a "Good Offensive Backcourt" but a "Great Offensive Backcourt". So that would have persented even more trouble for the Bulls...

...As it did from 1987 to 1989 :) [/COLOR]

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LAW 3: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have even a harder time Beating A[COLOR="Navy"] Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" with an "Average to Good Offensive Frontline" and an "Average to Bad Offensive Backcourt"

= Early 1990s Knicks (took them To Game 7 in 1992)

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*The Knicks Just Needed an Offensive Weopon (apart from Ewing) in either one of their Frontline Forward Spots.:)[/COLOR]

LAW 4:[COLOR="Red"] "A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR]Most Probably Not Win Over A [COLOR="DarkRed"]Team that has: a "Good Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offense Frontline" with an "Average to Good Defensive Backcourt" and "A Great Offensive Backcourt"

=1980s Showtime Lakers. Especially the 1985 to 1987 Lakers with Kareem-Magic and Worthy together plus their Supporting Casts of Scott, Thompson, Cooper, Green, Rambis.[/COLOR]

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Finally....

LAW 5: [COLOR="red"]"A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] Has No No Chance [COLOR="DarkGreen"] In Beating A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offensive Frontline with "Good Offensive Backcourt" and an "Great Defensive Backcourt"

=1986 Celtics with McHale-Bird-Parish-Walton-Ainge-DJ-Kite-Wedman, Siesting.[/COLOR]

The only way fro the Bulls to try to win some games is quite simple:

Locate Pippen as the PG for Most of the Game and Kukoc at the SF for Most of the game. This way with Kukoc and Pippen both in you would have more Scoring Possibilites but then again with No Pippen in the SF spot = you would have a WEAKER DEFENSE for the Likes of Bird-McHale-Parish and Walton ([COLOR="DarkGreen"]Yes the Celtics Strenght = Frontline Offense and Defense[/COLOR]!).

If you put Harper in for Pippen as a PG and Pippen as the SF for Most of the Game you will

[COLOR="Blue"]1st- Loose Creative Possibilities to make the Frontline Offense Score and

2nd- Consume Pippen. Whom cannot asoume the role of trying to:

1st: Try to Stop: Larry Bird!
2nd: Become the Second Scoring Threat after Jordan,
3rd: Rebound over Bird-McHale-Parish-Walton and
4th: Create as a Point-Forward.

= Simply To much Load for Pip.[/COLOR]

Matchups

[COLOR="Blue"]Backcourt:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ: Jordan Would Own Danny Ainge Offensively but still would not prevent him from Scoring Outside Shots.

(JORDAN WINS!) [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge: Both will go at it with Harper having the edge in his Drives but then again this is Prime Ainge and Old Harper

(Ballanced Match Up)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]Frontline[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McHale vs Rodman : Rodman Would get Owned by a 1986 McHale Offensively and Defensively. Rodman will only Outrebound McHale but would Not Stop Him from Scoring Nor Score on Him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=rodmade01

Mchale: 22.5 PPG (57.9% FG), 8.8 RPG; 1.5 BPG vs Rodman.

This is counting stats from 1990-91 to 1992-93 = A 33 to 35 year old Mchale not a Prime 1985-86 McHale at age: 28!

(McHALE WINS!)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird vs Pippen-Kukoc. Bird would own both of them Offensively and Rebounding Wise. None will Prevent Bird from owning the Boards, Posting Up for his 12-15 Jumpers, Scoring in other ways and Making Great Passes for Parish-McHale-Walton or even spoting up DJ or Ainge for Open Shots after Pick & Rolls made by the Frontline.

Pippen will Challange Bird in the Perimeter but Bird always will do what he used to do against faster players. Just wait closer to his Frontline to assure rebounds waiting for Pippen to Shoot from the Outside, which = Pippen`s Not a Reliable Open Shooter.

Kukoc will Challange Bird in the Post but then then again Bird will have an easier time Offensively with Kukoc than with Pippen (because Pippen is obviously a better Defender).

Reminder***Bird owned Pippen from 1988 to 1992[/COLOR]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=pippesc01

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]But remember this time we are talking not about a 31 to 35 year old Bird but a Prime 23 to 29 year old Bird. And yes Before his injury in 1989

(BIRD WINS!)

Parish vs Bulls Center: Any Bull`s Center would get Owned by a 1986 Parish both Offensively and Defensively.

(PARISH WINS!)

Then agin if Rodman needs a Pounding, The Celtics will just put in Walton for a Twin Tower System with Parish and McHale, putting Bird as a SG for some minutes and then later put in 6`11 ft and 250 lbs Greg Kite = A Dennis Rodman like type agressive Paint Player that was famous for brawls. Not to mention the guy was a 9.3 R.P/36 Minutes. [/COLOR]


RESUME OF THE LAWS:

"A Great Frontline (Composed of 3 Players) Will Always Own a Good/Great Backcourt (Composed of 2 Players) " .

Examples:

[COLOR="Blue"]2008 Finals Lakers v.s Celtics Result = Same would happen to the 95-96 Bulls if they faced a 1985-86 Celtics[/COLOR]

* In the Case of the Bulls. The Bulls can only assure one spot in the Game Matchups of [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership by Jordan[/COLOR] = that is [COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ[/COLOR].

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge is a Ballanced Won.[/COLOR]

The Rest of the Matchups:

Bird vs Pippen: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird Wins[/COLOR]
McHale vs Rodman: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Mchale Wins[/COLOR]
Parish vs Bulls Center=[COLOR="DarkGreen"] Parish[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership![/COLOR]

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The 1995-96 Bulls Have "Very Little Chances" of Beating a 1984-85/1986-87 Lakers and

Pretty Much "No Chance" in Beating a 1985-86 Celtics (Greatest Team Ever)

[Soundwave]

[COLOR="Black"]1984-85/1986-87 Lakers vs 1995-96 Bulls = Lakers in 7

1986-86 Celtics vs 1995-96 Bulls = Celtics in 6[/COLOR]

Read this and Learn Why:

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Some Basketball Laws:

LAW 1: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls) can Beat A Team that has: an "Average to Bad Offensive/Defensive Frontline" and an "Good, Average or Bad" Offensive/Defensisve Backcourt

= Most of the 1990s Teams the Bulls faced [/COLOR]

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LAW 2: [COLOR="red"] A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have A Hard Time Beating [COLOR="Blue"]A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" but with a "Bad Offensive Frontline" and Good "Offensive Backcourt"

= 1980s Pistons (owned the Bulls from 1984 to 1990) [/COLOR]


[COLOR="blue"]*With Adrian Dantley they would have had not a "Good Offensive Backcourt" but a "Great Offensive Backcourt". So that would have persented even more trouble for the Bulls...

...As it did from 1987 to 1989 :) [/COLOR]

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LAW 3: [COLOR="Red"]A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team with a Good Defensive Frontline but A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] will have even a harder time Beating A[COLOR="Navy"] Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Defensive Backcourt" with an "Average to Good Offensive Frontline" and an "Average to Bad Offensive Backcourt"

= Early 1990s Knicks (took them To Game 7 in 1992)

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*The Knicks Just Needed an Offensive Weopon (apart from Ewing) in either one of their Frontline Forward Spots.:)[/COLOR]

LAW 4:[COLOR="Red"] "A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR]Most Probably Not Win Over A [COLOR="DarkRed"]Team that has: a "Good Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offense Frontline" with an "Average to Good Defensive Backcourt" and "A Great Offensive Backcourt"

=1980s Showtime Lakers. Especially the 1985 to 1987 Lakers with Kareem-Magic and Worthy together plus their Supporting Casts of Scott, Thompson, Cooper, Green, Rambis.[/COLOR]

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Finally....

LAW 5: [COLOR="red"]"A Great Offensive and Defensive Perimeter Oriented Back Court Team" with a "Good Defensive Frontline" but "A Bad to Average Offensive Frontline" (The 90s Bulls)[/COLOR] Has No No Chance [COLOR="DarkGreen"] In Beating A Team that has: a "Great Defensive Frontline" and a "Great Offensive Frontline with "Good Offensive Backcourt" and an "Great Defensive Backcourt"

=1986 Celtics with McHale-Bird-Parish-Walton-Ainge-DJ-Kite-Wedman, Siesting.[/COLOR]

The only way fro the Bulls to try to win some games is quite simple:

Locate Pippen as the PG for Most of the Game and Kukoc at the SF for Most of the game. This way with Kukoc and Pippen both in you would have more Scoring Possibilites but then again with No Pippen in the SF spot = you would have a WEAKER DEFENSE for the Likes of Bird-McHale-Parish and Walton ([COLOR="DarkGreen"]Yes the Celtics Strenght = Frontline Offense and Defense[/COLOR]!).

If you put Harper in for Pippen as a PG and Pippen as the SF for Most of the Game you will

[COLOR="Blue"]1st- Loose Creative Possibilities to make the Frontline Offense Score and

2nd- Consume Pippen. Whom cannot asoume the role of trying to:

1st: Try to Stop: Larry Bird!
2nd: Become the Second Scoring Threat after Jordan,
3rd: Rebound over Bird-McHale-Parish-Walton and
4th: Create as a Point-Forward.

= Simply To much Load for Pip.[/COLOR]

Matchups

[COLOR="Blue"]Backcourt:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ: Jordan Would Own Danny Ainge Offensively but still would not prevent him from Scoring Outside Shots.

(JORDAN WINS!) [/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge: Both will go at it with Harper having the edge in his Drives but then again this is Prime Ainge and Old Harper

(Ballanced Match Up)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]Frontline[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McHale vs Rodman : Rodman Would get Owned by a 1986 McHale Offensively and Defensively. Rodman will only Outrebound McHale but would Not Stop Him from Scoring Nor Score on Him.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=rodmade01

Mchale: 22.5 PPG (57.9% FG), 8.8 RPG; 1.5 BPG vs Rodman.

This is counting stats from 1990-91 to 1992-93 = A 33 to 35 year old Mchale not a Prime 1985-86 McHale at age: 28!

(McHALE WINS!)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird vs Pippen-Kukoc. Bird would own both of them Offensively and Rebounding Wise. None will Prevent Bird from owning the Boards, Posting Up for his 12-15 Jumpers, Scoring in other ways and Making Great Passes for Parish-McHale-Walton or even spoting up DJ or Ainge for Open Shots after Pick & Rolls made by the Frontline.

Pippen will Challange Bird in the Perimeter but Bird always will do what he used to do against faster players. Just wait closer to his Frontline to assure rebounds waiting for Pippen to Shoot from the Outside, which = Pippen`s Not a Reliable Open Shooter.

Kukoc will Challange Bird in the Post but then then again Bird will have an easier time Offensively with Kukoc than with Pippen (because Pippen is obviously a better Defender).

Reminder***Bird owned Pippen from 1988 to 1992[/COLOR]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=pippesc01

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]But remember this time we are talking not about a 31 to 35 year old Bird but a Prime 23 to 29 year old Bird. And yes Before his injury in 1989

(BIRD WINS!)

Parish vs Bulls Center: Any Bull`s Center would get Owned by a 1986 Parish both Offensively and Defensively.

(PARISH WINS!)

Then agin if Rodman needs a Pounding, The Celtics will just put in Walton for a Twin Tower System with Parish and McHale, putting Bird as a SG for some minutes and then later put in 6`11 ft and 250 lbs Greg Kite = A Dennis Rodman like type agressive Paint Player that was famous for brawls. Not to mention the guy was a 9.3 R.P/36 Minutes. [/COLOR]


RESUME OF THE LAWS:

"A Great Frontline (Composed of 3 Players) Will Always Own a Good/Great Backcourt (Composed of 2 Players) " .

Examples:

[COLOR="Blue"]2008 Finals Lakers v.s Celtics Result = Same would happen to the 95-96 Bulls if they faced a 1985-86 Celtics[/COLOR]

* In the Case of the Bulls. The Bulls can only assure one spot in the Game Matchups of [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership by Jordan[/COLOR] = that is [COLOR="Red"]Jordan vs Ainge/DJ[/COLOR].

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Harper vs Ainge is a Ballanced Won.[/COLOR]

The Rest of the Matchups:

Bird vs Pippen: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Bird Wins[/COLOR]
McHale vs Rodman: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Mchale Wins[/COLOR]
Parish vs Bulls Center=[COLOR="DarkGreen"] Parish[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]Total Ownership![/COLOR]

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The 1995-96 Bulls Have "Very Little Chances" of Beating a 1984-85/1986-87 Lakers and

Pretty Much "No Chance" in Beating a 1985-86 Celtics (Greatest Team Ever)

Well gee thanks professor.

Problem with all your formulas is real basketball doesn't work like that. Maybe in a video game, but not in real life.

The Lakers/Celtics would not be able to run their offense in the same way versus the Bulls defense. You're not going to run n' gun fast break versus that Bulls team.

They had problems versus the Bad Boy Pistons as is and the Bulls developed into an even better defensive and offensive team. If you think it would be some kind of rout you would woefully mistaken, just like all the people who picked the Lakers to beat the Celtics because their roster looked sexier on paper going in to that series (or again Lakers-Detroit in 2004).

[1987_Lakers]

Well gee thanks professor.

Problem with all your formulas is real basketball doesn't work like that. Maybe in a video game, but not in real life.

The Lakers/Celtics would not be able to run their offense in the same way versus the Bulls defense. You're not going to run n' gun fast break versus that Bulls team.

They had problems versus the Bad Boy Pistons as is and the Bulls developed into an even better defensive and offensive team. If you think it would be some kind of rout you would woefully mistaken, just like all the people who picked the Lakers to beat the Celtics because their roster looked sexier on paper going in to that series (or again Lakers-Detroit in 2004).

The Celtics Front Court would rape that weak bulls front court.

[Soundwave]

The Celtics Front Court would rape that weak bulls front court.

You mean the same way the Celtics Front Court "raped" the Bad Boys Pistons front court? See on paper that's what should happen ... in reality we know that it didn't.

It's not like the Pistons front court was an All-Star team either.

This maybe taboo to say, but **** it, even a 4th year Shaquille O' Neal was a tougher cover than anyone the Celtics had on their front court in '86.

[1987_Lakers]

You mean the same way the Celtics Front Court "raped" the Bad Boys Pistons front court? See on paper that's what should happen ... in reality we know that it didn't.

It's not like the Pistons front court was an All-Star team either.

This maybe taboo to say, but **** it, even a 4th year Shaquille O' Neal was a tougher cover than anyone the Celtics had on their front court in '86.

Bill Walton wasn't playing for Boston when they played the Pistons in '87 and '88.

And Kevin McHale was dominating the Bad Boys Pistons frontcourt from '87 - '88.

Kevin McHale vs Bad Boys Pistons
'87 Season
1. 37 Points...12 Rebounds...60 FG%
2. 38 Points....14 Rebounds... 71 FG%
3. 22 Points...10 Rebounds... 50 FG%
4. 25 Points...10 Rebounds... 50 FG%

'88 Season
1. 20 Points...9 Rebounds...67 FG%
2. 31 Points...7 Rebounds...69 FG%
3. 20 Points...3 Rebounds....53 FG%
4. 33 Points...11 Rebounds...62 FG%
5. 29 Points...11 Rebounds...63 FG%
6. 33 Points..7 Rebounds...87 FG%

Besides..The Pistons Frontcourt was better than the Bulls Front Court.

Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman >>>>>> Longley, Wennington, Rodman

[1987_Lakers]

Bulls in six over both the Celtics and Lakers.

The Bulls would put Pippen on Magic or Bird and that would completely disrupt their entire "run n' gun" offense and it would change the entire game. Jordan and Rodman would then be further create chaos on the defensive end.

The Celtics and Lakers both had problems versus Detroit and the Bulls were every bit as good defensively, probably even better because they were more athletic.

Dumars at 6'4 simply can't do the things Pippen at 6'7 could do defensively.

The Celtics interior defense was so good that it got shredded to 63 points by a 2nd year Michael Jordan on their own home floor. The Celtics wouldn't be able to do anything to stop Jordan. Or even Pippen IMO (he would get his 20+ too offsetting a lot of Bird's offense).

This tells me how little you know about the '86 Celtics. The 1986 Celtics had one of the greatest if not the greatest Half Court Offense in History. In no way did they depend on their fast break offense to win games.

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This tells me how little you know about the '86 Celtics. The 1986 Celtics had one of the greatest if not the greatest Half Court Offense in History. In no way did they depend on their fast break offense to win games.

The way I look at it, the Bad Boy Pistons played the Lakers/Celtics pretty close to even and eventually became better than them.

I place the 95-96 Bulls above the Bad Boy Pistons.

Besides, when people say "oh Chicago wasn't as talented" .... well that Bulls team was built in the expansion era where one team really couldn't stockpile that much talent.

If that same Bulls core had access to better role players available in pre-expansion 80s, they would wipe the floor with the Celtics or Lakers.

[1987_Lakers]

The way I look at it, the Bad Boy Pistons played the Lakers/Celtics pretty close to even and eventually became better than them.

I place the 95-96 Bulls above the Bad Boy Pistons.

We are not talking about the '87 or '88 Celtics we are talking about the '86 Celtics. And during the '86 season the Pistons didn't cause much problems for the Celtics...the Celtics were 4-1 vs Detroit that year. Celtics were a different team by '88. Bill Walton and Scott Wedman were gone. And Dennis Johnson and Robert Parish aged.

If that same Bulls core had access to better role players available in pre-expansion 80s, they would wipe the floor with the Celtics or Lakers.

Key word: IF

[puppychili]

Lets play Sir Charles' game here and really break down the Celtics competition in the 86 playoffs.

In the first round they played the Bulls who they swept. The Bulls were pretty much Michael Jordan and a bunch of scrubs coached by Stan Albeck. Yet Jordan managed to get by this "great Boston front line" consistently and averaged 43 pts a game for the series with one of those games going to double OT. But you're gonna tell me that a prime Jordan along with Pippen and Rodman coached by Phil Jackson would have as you say NO CHANCE against this Boston team. You can't be serious.

This great Boston team couldn't stop Jordan at all that series. And what your match ups fail to account for is that Jordan is gonna be double sometimes even triple teamed. The Celtics did it to him and 86 and they couldn't stop him. Imagine him with a Kerr or Kukoc to kick it out to out of the double team. I think Kerr has proved that he can hit clutch shots in the playoffs Oh but thats right, according to you the Bulls would have "no chance". How ****ing ignorant.

But wait I'm not done. Who did the Celtics play in the 2nd round? The Atlanta Hawks. Theres an eastern conference power for you. They never got past the 2nd round of the playoffs and their peak was taking the Celtics to 7 games in 1988. You really gonna try and tell me that the 86 Hawks were better or even on par with the 91 Pistons, 93 Knicks, or 96 Magic just to name a few.

Now were at the Eastern Conference Finals. Who were the Celtics opponents for the east crown? The Immortal Milwaukee Bucks. Theres a perennial eastern power for you. Led in scoring that year by the great Sidney Moncrief. Of course the Celtics walked all over them. But not cause they were an inferior opponent. These are the 80's were talking about. You would of had to of been one kick ass team on the verge of greatness to make all the way to the east finals to challenge the 86' Celtics. Right?

By the way before we get to the Finals, lets review who the starting centers were for these 3 teams. Alton Lister, Jon Koncak and wait for it...... Dave Corzine. However did I think that Ewing and Shaq could hold a candle to these guys.

Now to the Finals where the Celtics beat the Houston Rockets in 6 games. Rockets were a good team mind you. No joke there. But their comptition was the Reggie Theus led Kings and legendary Denver Nuggets before punking the defending champion Lakers in 5 games. (Wonder what the Laker fans excuse is for that). But lets be real here even though the Rockets were a good team, they were satisfied just to get to the Finals much like the Lebron led Cavs were against the Spurs. No one gave these Rockets a chance at the time, but it took the Celtics 6 games to put them away for the title.

YOU GONNA TELL ME THAT THE 96 BULLS DON'T STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF BEATING THE CELTICS THAN THE 86 ROCKETS?!?!?!?!?!

A Rockets team mind you that followed up their Finals run by going out in the 2nd and first round respectively over the next 2 seasons. The 96 Bulls only followed their Finals win with 2 more titles including a 69 win season.

But thats right, all thats diluted cause the Bulls never had to get by the 86 Bucks.