*ISH 07/08 Player Rankings*

[BigTicket]

1.LeBron James
2.Kobe Bryant
3.Chris Paul
4.Tim Duncan
5.Kevin Garnett
6.Dwight Howard
7.Dwayne Wade
8.Dirk Nowitzki
9.Yao Ming
10.Deron Williams
11.Steve Nash
12.Tracy McGrady
13.Amare Stoudemire
14.Allen Iverson
15.Paul Pierce
16.Chauncey Billups
17.Carmelo Anthony
18.Chris Bosh
19.Baron Davis
20.Carlos Boozer

[starface]

it really amazes me how vastly overrated swingmen are. the fact that so many of these lists contain numerous swingmen like tmac, butler, pierce, vince, wade, joe johnson, etc, in one top 20 list just astonishes me. swingmen dont win u championships, they just sell jerseys.

[StroShow4]

I think Pau Gasol will be a lot more valuable once he starts at PF for us next season, and becomes more of a decoy with his passing. His stock will rise tremendously next season, wait and see.

we'll see. i was probably too hard on him when i said "memphis lol'd", obviously he did big things for that franchise... my point though was that he doesn't impact games like amare, and he was having a poor year before joining the lakers.

[~LA's fine$t~]

And that makes him better than 22/12 how?

What are you talking about?

[~LA's fine$t~]

I didn't list them either because they didn't play. Wade played a stretch healthy, however.

Yeah exactly, but he was no where near as effective as Garnett semi-injured this year.

I doubt Wade would make my top 10 list based on this past season, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[~LA's fine$t~]

StroShow, when making this list are we suppose to take projection into consideration? Or sole based on this past year alone.

[KNOW1EDGE]

LMAO

your basketball savvy is shining bright.

you know all-star selections are based on fan voting right? and the all-star game took place before monta ellis ripped off a straight month shooting 60+% right?

You do know Roy was voted in by the coaches and gm's right? The guys that actually understand how to evaluate talent. Unlike you.

Roy is better than Ellis, Camby, Davis and Kaman.

I really dont care what people in this forum think of Roy, coaches, gm's and actual talent evaluators KNOW that Roy is better. Thats good enough for me.

[hito da god]

I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.

Agreed.

I don't think either player would ever win a championship as a number one option, and as a #2 I'd rather have a guy with a MUCH higher basketball IQ and who is a MUCH better passer (Pau) than a guy who can just score and jump out of the gym (Amare). Amare's the better individual player, but Pau fits in on a team better as a four man than amare could ever dream to.

[kobeFANNER]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Tim Duncan
4. Chris Paul
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dirk Nowitzki
7. Deron Williams
8. Allen Iverson
9. Tracy Mcgrady
10. Yao Ming
11. Dwight Howard
12. Chris Bosh
13. Dwyane Wade
14. Steve Nash
15. Carmelo Anthony
16. Amare Stoudemire
17. Paul Pierce
19. Baron Davis
20. Pau Gasol

[Spudjjay]

Hope i'm not late.

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Tim Duncan
6. Dwight Howard
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Yao Ming
9. Paul Pierce
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11.Dwayne Wade
12.Allen Iverson
13. Steve Nash
14. Carmelo Anthony
15. Tracy Mcgrady
16. Chris Bosh
17. Manu Ginobli
18. Baron Davis
19. Deron williams
20. Vince Carter

[~LA's fine$t~]

Hope i'm not late.

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Tim Duncan
6. Dwight Howard
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Yao Ming
9. Paul Pierce
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11.Dwayne Wade
12.Allen Iverson
13. Steve Nash
14. Carmelo Anthony
15. Tracy Mcgrady
16. Chris Bosh
17. Manu Ginobli
18. Baron Davis
19. Deron williams
20. Vince Carter

Sorry, you're overrating Pierce way too much.
No way in hell is he better then Carmelo, Nowitzki or McGrady.

[Spudjjay]

Sorry, you're overrating Pierce way too much.
No way in hell is he better then Carmelo, Nowitzki or McGrady.

Carmelo And T-Mac are not better than Pierce, Dirk maybe, but not those two.

[~LA's fine$t~]

Carmelo And T-Mac are not better than Pierce.

Only to a poster with a Pierce avator I guess.

[Spudjjay]

Only to a poster with a Pierce avator I guess.

Care to explain why you feel T-Mac and Carmelo are better?

[starface]

You do know Roy was voted in by the coaches and gm's right? The guys that actually understand how to evaluate talent. Unlike you.

Roy is better than Ellis, Camby, Davis and Kaman.

I really dont care what people in this forum think of Roy, coaches, gm's and actual talent evaluators KNOW that Roy is better. Thats good enough for me.

LMAO those same coaches and GM's that draft Kwame Brown #1 overall? The same ones who give Stephon Marbury 20 per?

well, ok. i guess if isiah thomas and kevin mchale say brandon roy is better than baron davis, that pretty much seals the deal.


LMAO. how dense are you? every analyst in basketball was saying davis should have got it over roy. every person at this board knows davis should have got it over roy. it is widely known that because of his past baron davis is unpopular in coaching/managing circles.

and yet despite all this, you maintain that bc Roy got the all-star nod over Baron, that it concretely makes him a better player.

This topic and everyone here has pwned you for life.