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    I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
    Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
    Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.

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    1.Lebron James
    2.Kobe Bryant
    3.Chris Paul
    4.Kevin Garnette
    5.Tim Duncan
    6.Steve Nash
    7.Amare Stoudemire
    8.Dirk Nowitzki
    9.Dwayne Wade
    10.Yao Ming
    11.Dwight Howard
    12.Chris Bosh
    13.Deron Williams
    14.Carmelo Anthony
    15.Tony Parker
    16.Allen Iverson
    17.Manu Ginobli
    18. T-mac
    19.Vince Carter
    20.Elton Brand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emile
    I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
    Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
    Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.
    i couldn't disagree more. why would anyone take pau over amare? amare's younger, more athletic, and more dominant offensively. defense is both of their weaknesses. and having seen pau play in memphis this season, let me tell you right now he didn't look like the same pau as the one that plays for the lakers. kobe has something to do with that.

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    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. LeBron James
    3. Chris Paul
    4. Yao Ming
    5. Amare Stoudemire
    6. Dwight Howard
    7. Kevin Garnett
    8. Tim Duncan
    9. Tracy McGrady
    10. Dwyane Wade
    11. Baron Davis
    12. Deron Williams
    13. Gilbert Arenas
    14. Steve Nash
    15. Dirk Nowitzki
    16. Paul Pierce
    17. Allen Iverson
    18. Elton Brand
    19. Tony Parker
    20. Caron Butler

    Yes, I realize I don't have Melo on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emile
    I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
    Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
    Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.
    So what makes Pau better than Amare then? If Amare puts up better numbers, and impresses you more, and is more dominant?

    Is it cuz Pau is a Laker now? Cuz if he was still a Griz we wouldnt even be talking about him dude........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emile
    I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
    Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
    Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.


    So you came to your conclusion because of what you think and not the better stats/more impressive/more dominate. That makes since. Just throw out all logic becuase Gasol plays for your team and you have a man crush on him.

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    (On the top of my head)

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Tim Duncan
    3. Lebron James
    4. Chris Paul
    5. Dwayne Wade
    6. Kevin Garnett
    7. Baron Davis
    8. Steve Nash
    9. Dwight Howard
    10. Amare Stoudemire
    11. Paul Pierce
    12. Dirk Nowitzski
    13. Deron Williams
    14. Carmelo Anthony
    15. T-Mac
    16. Manu Ginobili
    17. Rasheed Wallace
    18. Brandon Roy
    19. Joe Johnson
    20. Ray Allen

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    Here we go:

    1. Lebron James
    2. Kevin Garnett
    3. Chris Paul
    4. Kobe Bryant
    5. Dwight Howard
    6. Tim Duncan
    7. Caron Butler
    8. Marcus Camby
    9. Steve Nash
    10. Deron Williams
    11. Jason Kidd
    12. Dirk Nowitzky
    13. Amare Stoudemire
    14. Baron Davis
    15. Antawn Jamison
    16. Shawn Marion
    17. Yao Ming
    18. Allen Iverson
    19. Ron Artest
    20. Chris Kaman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emile
    I'm pretty certain most GM's and coaches would pick Pau over Amare. I argued this a lot before and don't feel like doing it again.
    Yes, Amare will put up better stats, impress you more, act all tough and dominant but Pau is a better player.
    Don't get me wrong, I certainly do see flaws in Pau. But overall, he's a more valuable player than Amare although Amare may be a better individual.
    Emile normally ur post are insightful, but wtf are u trying to say???

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamgine
    Here we go:

    1. Lebron James
    2. Kevin Garnett
    3. Chris Paul
    4. Kobe Bryant
    5. Dwight Howard
    6. Tim Duncan
    7. Caron Butler
    8. Marcus Camby
    9. Steve Nash
    10. Deron Williams
    11. Jason Kidd
    12. Dirk Nowitzky
    13. Amare Stoudemire
    14. Baron Davis
    15. Antawn Jamison
    16. Shawn Marion
    17. Yao Ming
    18. Allen Iverson
    19. Ron Artest
    20. Chris Kaman
    This is a pretty funny joke.

    I havent laughed that hard in years.

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    Ok, my list was determined by asking myself this question: If I had one season to win a championship and the season started tomorrow, in what order would I select a player for my team.

    so without further ado...

    1. Lebron James
    2. Tim Duncan
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Chris Paul
    5. Kevin Garnett
    6. Kobe Bryant
    7. Dwight Howard
    8. Amare Stoudamire
    9. Elton Brand
    10. Yao Ming
    11. Chris Kaman
    12. Manu Ginobili
    13. Steve Nash
    14. Allen Iverson
    15. Pau Gasol
    16. Chauncey Billups
    17. Zydrunas Ilgauskus
    18. Dirk Nowitzki
    19. Jason Kidd
    20. Monta Ellis
    Last edited by starface; 06-01-2008 at 07:54 PM.

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    [COLOR="Blue"]20.Brandon Roy
    19.Vince Carter
    18.Paul Pierce
    17.TMac
    16.Tony Parker
    15.Carmello Anthony
    14.Joe Johnson
    13.Baron Davis
    12.Steve Nash
    11.Carlos Boozer
    10.Dirk Nowitzki
    9.Deron Williams
    8.Dwight Howard
    7.Al Jefferson
    6.Amare
    5.LeBron James
    4.Tim Duncan
    3.KG
    2.Chris Paul
    1.Kobe Bryant

    Some players not considered because of injury.[/COLOR]
    Last edited by Dasher; 06-03-2008 at 08:25 AM.

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    1. LeBron James
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Tim Duncan
    4. Kevin Garnett
    5. Dwight Howard
    6. Chris Paul
    7. Deron Williams
    8. Amare Stoudemire
    9. Dwayne Wade
    10. Steve Nash
    11. Yao Ming
    12. Carmelo Anthony
    13. Chris Bosh
    14. Allen Iverson
    15. Dirk Nowitzki
    16. Paul Pierce
    17. Vince Carter
    18. Tracy McGrady
    19. Brandon Roy
    20. Pau Gasol

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxNeXuSxX
    (On the top of my head)

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Tim Duncan
    3. Lebron James
    4. Chris Paul
    5. Dwayne Wade
    6. Kevin Garnett
    7. Baron Davis
    8. Steve Nash
    9. Dwight Howard
    10. Amare Stoudemire
    11. Paul Pierce
    12. Dirk Nowitzski
    13. Deron Williams
    14. Carmelo Anthony
    15. T-Mac
    16. Manu Ginobili
    17. Rasheed Wallace
    18. Brandon Roy
    19. Joe Johnson
    20. Ray Allen
    How on earth is Wade above Garnett based on this season?

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    Elton Brand...yeah. Forgot about him. I'd actually have him over Pau. Obviously, over Amare as well.
    Amare just comes off all wrong to me. Like the empty stats guy. Not a presence.
    Not a vital part of the team...I just kinda see him as...being there and doing things, not making difference. Not really having some crucial impact or making it easier for his teammates or anything.... Dunno.

    Pau's different. He really impacts the game. With his passing, intangibles, basketball IQ...since he got to LA, Kobe's been amazing. Odom's been better than ever. He certainly does make it easier for others. Positions himself well on the court..

    Maybe I'm just an Amare hater but he's just...blah to me. I think more impressionable than actually good. Like Iverson/Arenas/etc.
    Pau actually led his team to 50 wins before. I dread of a thought of Amare in his position. Pau's just much more polished...the type of a player for team basketball as it's supposed to be play. Amare's good but the environment I see him excelling in is as a run and gun type. And run and gun teams lose.

    No one talks about how well Pau adjusted to the triangle from the second he became a Laker. I very much doubt Amare could do the same and be so vital to the team and especially his teammates. He'd be doing more of what Bynum was doing. And anyone remembers Odom while Bynum was still active? Yeah...and you telling me Pau had nothing to do with that? Except of course, the difference between Bynum and Amare is that Bynum is a legit defender and a presence. Although, not as good offensively yet.

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