The Top 100 Greatest NBA Players Of All Time According To ISH

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a certain caption pic comes to mind but imageshack is playing up

[Sir Charles]

Explain to me how a...

[COLOR="Red"]Top 10 All-Time EFF Player
Top 9 All-Time Season PER Player and...
Top 7 Al-Time Play-Off PER[/COLOR]

*Facts and Stats!

Player whom had Inferior Casts and Teams than All of Those Above Him (and many below) in that Departament Through Out his Years (especially in his Prime) and Played in the Toughesta era in the NBA is Not a Top 5-10 Player of All-Time?

Malone Higher than Barkley as a Player? = Most Overrated Player Ever with Russell. Malone is More like a Top 15-20

Barkley = Clearly the Most Underrated Great of All-Time by Miles by Miles...No Way Below Top 10

Are you Including his ...

-Louthmouthed Comments
-Off Court Activity (Spitting Incident, Fights, Not In Shape...)
-Short and Overweight Frame Can`t be a PF! ( More like = Envy and Humilation on the Rest of the NBA in his Prime)
-Agressive Demeanor

... In the Grading of a How Great a Player Is?

It Looks Like You Are!!!




1-Bill Russel Insulting Too High (Hardly a Top 10-15 Center of All Time)

2-Adrian Dantley Too Low once Again..
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3-Grant Hill Too Low...Prime Grant is a Top 10 All Time SF maybe even a bit Higher....

4-Gary Payton Too Low

[lilojmayo]

Originally Posted by KB42PAH
Jordan = Cut from his high school team.

should we excuse that?

actually i think thats one of the parts on how we admire MJ so much he wasnt always better than his competition he had to work day and night for it to be GOAT unlike alot of HS phenoms like a Lebron James or OJ Mayo would were from middle school better than ppl 6-7 years older than them

[Niquesports]

Explain to me how a...

[COLOR="Red"]Top 10 All-Time EFF Player
Top 9 All-Time Season PER Player and...
Top 7 Al-Time Play-Off PER[/COLOR]

*Facts and Stats!

Player whom had Inferior Casts and Teams than All of Those Above Him (and many below) in that Departament Through Out his Years (especially in his Prime) and Played in the Toughesta era in the NBA is Not a Top 5-10 Player of All-Time?

Malone Higher than Barkley as a Player? = Most Overrated Player Ever with Russell. Malone is More like a Top 15-20

Barkley = Clearly the Most Underrated Great of All-Time by Miles by Miles...No Way Below Top 10

Are you Including his ...

-Louthmouthed Comments
-Off Court Activity (Spitting Incident, Fights, Not In Shape...)
-Short and Overweight Frame Can`t be a PF! ( More like = Envy and Humilation on the Rest of the NBA in his Prime)
-Agressive Demeanor

... In the Grading of a How Great a Player Is?

It Looks Like You Are!!!




1-Bill Russel Insulting Too High (Hardly a Top 10-15 Center of All Time)

2-Adrian Dantley Too Low once Again..
.
3-Grant Hill Too Low...Prime Grant is a Top 10 All Time SF maybe even a bit Higher....

4-Gary Payton Too Low

Anyone that ranks a center that leads his team to 11 titles cant be less than a top 5 player. To just say his ppg was low is insulting to anyone that knows basketball or has seen him play.

[Sir Charles]

Anyone that ranks a center that leads his team to 11 titles cant be less than a top 5 player. To just say his ppg was low is insulting to anyone that knows basketball or has seen him play.

Anyone who plays with 7 HOF for 13 Years will be Seen as A Great Player even if he Isn`t.

FG% at Below 50% with 7 HOFs?
Great Rebounder, Passer and Defender? He Was but ofcourse even Ed Nealy can be seen as Greater than he Is if Playing with 7 HOF for All of his Career in his Prime and His Casts Prime....

Hakeem >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Robinson >>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Ewing > Russell
Gilmore as Good or even > Russell

[Lebron23]

LeBron James First 6 years in the NBA > Career of Tracy Mcgrady.

[Mdog1]

LeBron James First 6 years in the NBA > Career of Tracy Mcgrady.

lol I agree.

[Niquesports]

Anyone who plays with 7 HOF for 13 Years will be Seen as A Great Player even if he Isn`t.

FG% at Below 50% with 7 HOFs?
Great Rebounder, Passer and Defender? He Was but ofcourse even Ed Nealy can be seen as Greater than he Is if Playing with 7 HOF for All of his Career in his Prime and His Casts Prime....

Hakeem >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Robinson >>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell
Ewing > Russell
Gilmore as Good or even > Russell

Russell 11 titles and 2 NCAA Titles
Hakeem didnt win a title until Jordan was out the league
Robinson could never lead his team to a finals until Duncan can and took over the team
Shaq is just another version of Wilt and we all know how many times Russ lead his team over Wilt.
Ewing patterend his game after Russ being coach by John Thompson who played with Russ.

ITs funny how you want to say Russ played with 7 HOF and even a HOF coach but he is the only player /coach that was on all 11 title teams.
Find any news article or player or coach that has seen Russ play and show me one that has him ranked lower than a top 5 center.
Maybe you have a problem that he did everything Barkley couldnt lead his teams to Championships.

[Godfather]

Russell 11 titles and 2 NCAA Titles
Hakeem didnt win a title until Jordan was out the league
Robinson could never lead his team to a finals until Duncan can and took over the team
Shaq is just another version of Wilt and we all know how many times Russ lead his team over Wilt.
Ewing patterend his game after Russ being coach by John Thompson who played with Russ.

ITs funny how you want to say Russ played with 7 HOF and even a HOF coach but he is the only player /coach that was on all 11 title teams.
Find any news article or player or coach that has seen Russ play and show me one that has him ranked lower than a top 5 center.
Maybe you have a problem that he did everything Barkley couldnt lead his teams to Championships.

Lol if you think Shaq is another version of Wilt. Prime Shaq would steal Wilt's lunch put him in a coffin and bury him. God knows what he would have done to the 6'9'' 225 pound Russell.

[Brunch@Five]

the bumping of this thread makes me question one thing:

how is Loki banned, but this KB24PAH guy and Sir Charles are still allowed to post?

[Niquesports]

Lol if you think Shaq is another version of Wilt. Prime Shaq would steal Wilt's lunch put him in a coffin and bury him. God knows what he would have done to the 6'9'' 225 pound Russell.

Young Shaq Prime Shaq Old Fat Shaq has never dominated the league like Wilt has and Wilt played against 4 Top 50 OF all time Centers

[Godfather]

Young Shaq Prime Shaq Old Fat Shaq has never dominated the league like Wilt has and Wilt played against 4 Top 50 OF all time Centers

Please if Shaq toughest competition was Russel paired with players 6'10'' and under we all know Shaq would dominate them.

Not to mention Wilt never dominated the league the way Shaq did in three consecutive finals.

[The Nets]

TALK ABOUT THE PLAYERS WHO YOU BELIEVE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER ON THE LIST, ARE WAY TO HIGH ON THE LIST. ALSO TALK DISCUSS PLAYERS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOP 100 AND PLAYERS THAT HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING ON THIS LIST.


Insidehoops has finally gotten through with it’s 100 Greatest Players list in 100 days (well probably 108 days, I wasn‘t here a couple of days and they went on a while longer). There is a bunch of great players, some hall of famers who didn’t even make this list.


-Gilbert Arenas
-Rolando Blackman
-Walter Davis
-Cliff Hagan
-Lou Hudson
-Gus Johnson
-Marques Johnson
-Bobby Jones
-Bill Laimbeer
-Lafayette Lever
-Ed MaCauley
-Jermaine O’Neal
-Jim Pollard
-Micheal Ray Richardson
-Jack Sikma
-Rudy Tomjanovich
-Chet Walker
-Paul Westphal
Just to name a few…


Thanks to everyone from insidehoops who participated in these threads over the past 100+ days. I’m pretty sure everyone learned something they didn’t know before after voting and reading up on players.


#100 - Mark Aguirre. Mark Aguirre played in an era where the small forward was one of the deepest positions. #5, #12, #43, #58, #60, #61, #71 and #83 were all SF’s he had to play nightly. He held his own with the Dallas Mavericks and latter as a Piston. He made all of him NBA All-Star appearances and his highest scoring average (29.5) with Dallas. He was traded for #71 and helped Dallas win back to back titles as he played with #20, #47 and #62.

| PPG 20 | RPG 5 | APG 3.1 |
3 NBA All-Star Games
Field Goal attempts leader
2 NBA Championships





ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
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51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson
70. Lenny Wilkens
71. Adrian Dantley
72. Bob Lanier
73. Neil Johntson
74. Walt Bellamy
75. Vince Carter
76. Spencer Haywood
77. Ray Allen
78. Dennis Johnson
79. Paul Pierce
80. Dikembe Mutombo
81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp
90. Mark Price
91. Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway
92. Tommy Heinsohn
93. George McGinnis
94. Tim Hardaway
95. Mel Daniels
96. Bob Davies
97. Tom Chambers
98. Maurice Cheeks
99. Ben Wallace
100. Mark Aguirre

#100 Greatest Player Voting
Mark Aguirre = 8 votes
Gilbert Arenas = 3 votes
Lafayette Lever = 3 votes
Jim Pollard = 2 votes
Bobby Jones = 1 vote
Bill Laimbeer = 1 vote
Ed MaCauley = 1 vote
Rik Smits = 1 vote


Number 101 seems to be a tie between Gilbert Arenas and Fat Lever...


Official #100 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

This is a fairly biased list considering almost half of the players are those who are still playing in the league. Besides, how come Ben Wallace is ranked at top 100 while Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton are not? I'm also pretty sure CP3 and Deron are already better than Ben Wallace ever was...

[Niquesports]

Please if Shaq toughest competition was Russel paired with players 6'10'' and under we all know Shaq would dominate them.

Not to mention Wilt never dominated the league the way Shaq did in three consecutive finals.

Well if Wilt ever had to play against centers as weak as the ones that Shaq played against in 3 title he would have dominated also.With the exception of Mutombo Shaq hasnt played against any center worth mentioning in a finals oh my bad he did get his butt whipped when he faced Hakeem.

[Godfather]

This is a fairly biased list considering almost half of the players are those who are still playing in the league. Besides, how come Ben Wallace is ranked at top 100 while Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton are not? I'm also pretty sure CP3 and Deron are already better than Ben Wallace ever was...

CP3 yes, Deron no. Prime Ben Wallace was the most dominating defensive force in the 00's, he definitely deserves a spot on this list above Billups (Ben had a very good case for the finals mvp), Hamilton, and Deron.