Did Jamal Murray show the world he is more clutch than Lebron?

[kawhileonard2]

Murray hit two game winners this series.

[j3lademaster]

Uh, no. Lebron has the most playoff game winners ever. Not that game winners should be an indicator of how clutch a player is due to small sample size. The real clutch stats are how they perform in close games in the 4th and elimination game stats, which Lebron has too.

[TheMan]

Uh, no. Lebron has the most playoff game winners ever. Not that game winners should be an indicator of how clutch a player is due to small sample size. The real clutch stats are how they perform in close games in the 4th and elimination game stats, which Lebron has too.

This LeBron sounds like an amazing clutch player Given that he's been balling for two decades, he must surely have, what, 6, 7 rings at least?

[j3lademaster]

This LeBron sounds like an amazing clutch player Given that he's been balling for two decades, he must surely have, what, 6, 7 rings at least?

Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals. Lebron’s never had a situation where he can underperform or miss games like that and win. All a player can do is control what’s within their power to control.

[tpols]

I'm pretty sure Lebron has 0 playoff game winners against the west in his 20 year career. Dude only hits when it's pressureless vs shitty teams and especially if it's a tie or his team is up.

The definition of clutch is performing late game under immense pressure. That's never been his Forte. Where as that is one Murray's biggest strengths. It's all about the midrange game when you look at the clutches players ever. I can even admit Murray is a much better gamewinner taker than somebody like Curry who I'm a big fan of.

[tpols]

Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals. Lebron’s never had a situation where he can underperform or miss games like that and win. All a player can do is control what’s within their power to control.

Cute stats. Ray, Kyrie, and AD are the only ones who hit gamewinners in his title runs.

[warriorfan]

Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals. Lebron’s never had a situation where he can underperform or miss games like that and win. All a player can do is control what’s within their power to control.

stats are overrated. hard to compare stats across eras with both stylistic and major rule changes.

eye test has shown us lebron isn’t clutch

[1987_Lakers]

Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals. Lebron’s never had a situation where he can underperform or miss games like that and win. All a player can do is control what’s within their power to control.

It's over.

[HylianNightmare]

I'm pretty sure Lebron has 0 playoff game winners against the west in his 20 year career. Dude only hits when it's pressureless vs shitty teams and especially if it's a tie or his team is up.

The definition of clutch is performing late game under immense pressure. That's never been his Forte. Where as that is one Murray's biggest strengths. It's all about the midrange game when you look at the clutches players ever. I can even admit Murray is a much better gamewinner taker than somebody like Curry who I'm a big fan of.

This. Take away his tie game game winners and the list is short

[SouBeachTalents]

Rings are circumstantial. Kobe’s argument over Lebron is literally 5 rings > 4 but he won one averaging 15 ppg on 38% in the finals. Lebron’s never had a situation where he can underperform or miss games like that and win. All a player can do is control what’s within their power to control.

Swatted that take you'd see made by a casual on social media back in his face

[SouBeachTalents]

Cute stats. Ray, Kyrie, and AD are the only ones who hit gamewinners in his title runs.

Just think, Kobe has those atrocious numbers in elimination games AND he has his teammates hit all the gamewinners

[r15mohd]

This. Take away his tie game game winners and the list is short

wasnt both of Murrays tied game winners?

[SouBeachTalents]

wasnt both of Murrays tied game winners?

And they were only in the first round too, with a series lead to boot. Definitely not clutch by this boards standards.

[tpols]

Just think, Kobe has those atrocious numbers in elimination games AND he has his teammates hit all the gamewinners

Being thrust into elimination isn't a good thing bro. Kobe won his titles in mostly 5-6 game series and sweeps.

Not only that but that has nothing to do with clutch play. We're talking about last couple minutes and possessions of close games here... the fact that you guys are trying to shift the argument to something totally different proves you have no case regarding the current topic.

Denver and Murray couldn't have owned Lebron in the clutch anymore than they did and you guys are still talking shit. It's absurdly comical.

[warriorfan]

SouthBeachTalents woke up mad today.

And still has very little understanding of league history and era differences

Sucks to be him